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  • Thompson Longfellow - did he lie on the census? Long one I am afraid :-)

    I am tearing my hair out as regards a Thompson Longfellow b. 1840 in Horsforth

    1841 census - Workhouse Hill, Troy, Horsforth
    F - William Longfellow
    M Ann Longfellow
    He is shown as Benjamin Longfellow 1 - he was baptised Benjamin Thompson Longfellow on 24 Mar 1839 born Horsforth
    His brother Thomas Longfellow is 3 - he was baptised Thompson Burton Longfellow on 26 Apr 1840

    1851 census - Troy, Horsforth
    F William
    M Ann
    Benjamin T Longfellow 11 born Horsforth
    Thompson Burton Longfellow 13

    1861 census - Long Row, Horsforth
    F William
    M Ann
    Benjamin T Longfellow 21 - cloth fuller born Horsforth
    He has a brother William who is 15
    Thompson Burton Longfellow is not there

    A Thompson Longfellow died 1862 Q2 Wharfedale vol 9a page 109 aged 24 - believe this to be Thompson Burton Longfellow

    5 April 1862 Thompson Longfellow 22 Fuller of Horsforth married Martha Sutcliffe. His father - William Longfellow - Clothier

    1871 census onwards - Benjamin Thompson Longfellow just uses Thompson Longfellow

    He dies 1923 Q2 Wharfedale 9a 161

    HERE ARE THE QUERIES!

    1851 census again - Troy, Horsforth
    F John Longfellow 44 - woollen cloth weaver
    M - Sarah 34
    William 26
    John 16
    Thompson 12 born Horsforth
    all the boys shown as sons

    Can find no birth record for a third Thompson Longfellow ?? Or how/if John Longfellow links to my family

    1861 census 18 Corporation St, Horsforth
    William Longfellow Head 31 cloth fuller
    Martha - wife 31
    Thompson Longfellow 22 born Horsforth woollen cloth weaver - shown as Bros (Brother?) - suspect this is Thompson Burton Longfellow who was not home with the family on census night BUT - a brother, William born 1830 ? Can't find one on any record?

    Am I getting my Thompsons muddled up? have been looking at this for weeks now and getting bogged down.

    Could anyone perhaps spot something obvious which I am missing?

  • #2
    There's a Thomas Burton Longfellow in 1871 age 34, married to Elizabeth, so he can't have died in 1862.
    ~ Louise ~

    Researching Dalzell, Highmore & Sumpton in Cumbria, also Braidford & Chevalier

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    • #3
      The 1861, 18 Corporation Street family are sons of John Longfellow ie William, John & Thompson.
      ~ Louise ~

      Researching Dalzell, Highmore & Sumpton in Cumbria, also Braidford & Chevalier

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      • #4
        So you've got Thomas Burton Longfellow b Dec q 1837, son of William, and Thompson Longfellow b Dec q 1838 son of John.
        I suspect William & John senior are brothers.
        ~ Louise ~

        Researching Dalzell, Highmore & Sumpton in Cumbria, also Braidford & Chevalier

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        • #5
          I think I've found Thomas Burton Longfellow in 1861......Berton Longfely age 22 b Horsforth, in Knaresborough at a bleach works.
          ~ Louise ~

          Researching Dalzell, Highmore & Sumpton in Cumbria, also Braidford & Chevalier

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          • #6
            Hi Muppet,

            Looks like Louise has found your answer.

            Children of William and Anne Longfellow.All Baptised at St Margaret, Horsforth. John bpt. 12/6/1831, Hannah(listed as Anna on record)bpt. 1/9/1833,George bpt. 3/1/1836, Thomas Burton born 13/10/1837 bpt. 24/3/1839, Benjamin Thompson born 21/12/1839 bpt 26/4/1840.

            John Longfellow and his wife Hannah had John born c1834 and Thompson 1838.

            Ian

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            • #7
              I've been pondering it overnight....
              The Thompson Longfellow who died 1862 was son of John (1862-1838 = 24).
              I suspect Thomas Burton & Benjamin Thompson were known by their second names (not uncommon in the area), Benjamin dropping his first name when he married in 1862.
              ~ Louise ~

              Researching Dalzell, Highmore & Sumpton in Cumbria, also Braidford & Chevalier

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              • #8
                There is a marriage of William Longfellow and Ann Thompson 8th August 1799, Guiseley, Yorkshire
                1841 census living with William & Ann is a 70 year old William Longfellow...probably the father.
                ~ Louise ~

                Researching Dalzell, Highmore & Sumpton in Cumbria, also Braidford & Chevalier

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                • #9
                  Thank you all so much for your kind replies. Will have a good look through them all, compare with what I already have and report back.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Meridian Line View Post
                    There's a Thomas Burton Longfellow in 1871 age 34, married to Elizabeth, so he can't have died in 1862.
                    It seems obvious when pointed out but I had been missing that .... thanks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Meridian Line View Post
                      So you've got Thomas Burton Longfellow b Dec q 1837, son of William, and Thompson Longfellow b Dec q 1838 son of John.
                      I suspect William & John senior are brothers.
                      You are correct. I have tracked down 3 brothers .... John and William being 2 of them. Seems the name Thompson was a family name and kept cropping up. have found it in more recent members of the family now I am on the right track.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Meridian Line View Post
                        I think I've found Thomas Burton Longfellow in 1861......Berton Longfely age 22 b Horsforth, in Knaresborough at a bleach works.
                        Goodness! How did you come by such a mis transcribed veersion of the name?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Meridian Line View Post
                          I've been pondering it overnight....
                          The Thompson Longfellow who died 1862 was son of John (1862-1838 = 24).
                          I suspect Thomas Burton & Benjamin Thompson were known by their second names (not uncommon in the area), Benjamin dropping his first name when he married in 1862.
                          Yes indeed. Suddenly all my Thompsons are falling into place.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Meridian Line View Post
                            There is a marriage of William Longfellow and Ann Thompson 8th August 1799, Guiseley, Yorkshire
                            1841 census living with William & Ann is a 70 year old William Longfellow...probably the father.
                            Yes, i had already spotted the older William. Thanks for the marriage date , that helped me find the 3 brothers all born to them.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Meridian Line View Post
                              There is a marriage of William Longfellow and Ann Thompson 8th August 1799, Guiseley, Yorkshire
                              1841 census living with William & Ann is a 70 year old William Longfellow...probably the father.
                              Yippee! Checked it all out and thrilled that I now know where the "Thompson" which apperas several times through my family on the Longfellow side came from. They are all named after my 4x great grandmother, Ann Thomson.

                              Thank you so much for your help. Still finding it terribly confusing when I look at census records. Just too many, John, William and Thompsons all in the same area all born similar times. Keep thinking I am straight then get confused again, but definitely on right track now.

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