Scotney/Roberts help

[rickster]

Hello Steve

Can I ask a big favor please I am in Canada

Ineed two wills taken with digital cam 5 mpix or higher
Peter Roberts 4 Feb 1825
Charles scotney 24 July 1776


God bless
Thank you

Rick


Both family if it cost will send you pounds to cover expense

Email address removed. Please send a PM to rickster if you can help.

[Jessbowbag]

Where are those wills Rickster?
Do you know that Northants CRO actually have them?

[rickster]

Hello Jessie

Yes they have them at the archives on the Roberts Will there is something writen on the back I was told from a worker there

If you do go please let me know I am in Canada and tring to learn about England and the area any cost let me know please pm me please not sure how to can send u email that I was sent from archive

Thanks for the quick responds

Rick

[Jessbowbag]

In order to find the correct will you will need to tell me a bit more Rickster.

In fact tell me eveything you know about him, where & when did he die for instance. I want to make sure I find the right one for you

[rickster]

Hello jess

Peter Roberts 4 Feb 1825 uppingham rutland
Charles scotney 24 July 1776 North luffernham rutland

These are the dates and places of death this is what the archives gave me

Hope that is enough

Thanks again

Rick

[rickster]

HI jess


The only thing I notice on there message was a
P will peter Roberts 2 Feb 1825 uppinghan
P will Charles scotney 24 July 1776 north luffernham

Rick will e mail you the message from them if you like



Rick

[rickster]

HI Jess

The message sent to me starts with
P will peter riberts 4 Feb 1825 uppingham
P will Charles scotney 24 July 1776 north luffernham
Dont know if the p means anything

Rick

[Jessbowbag]

Have emailled CRO with a request to view, Not sure that I will be able to photograph them ( its quite costly for me , as I have no other use for a photo pass) I'll have a look and at least attempt to transcribe them for you.

If you really want pictures, thenI'd appreciate you paying costs upfront. ( £4.50 for the photo pass)
Hold fire until I tell you what the actual costs are

[rickster]

Hello jess

If u vsn trll me evrrything in them ok but eill send you 4.50 no problems mail or western union

Transcribe will br good if nit to hard

Thanks again

Rick

[Jessbowbag]

I'm going tommorow Ricky - they are getting them out. Will attempt to transcribe them for a start

[rickster]

Hi Jess


You are the greatest any info will help
Wife kids I hope and witnesss who knows

Bless you if. I can help in ontario Canada
Quebec too

Rick

[Jessbowbag]

The will of Charles Scotney, late of North Luffenham

Proved 24th July 1776
Wm.Rogers

Mr Charles Scotneys Will
Dateed 30th April 1776
Paid for


In the name of God, Amen
I Charles Scotney of North Luffenham in the county of Rutland being sick of body but thanks be to God of sound and disposing mind, memory and understanding but considering the certainty of death as well of the uncertainty of ( Couldnt read the word) being ( Something..Vocacious? ) so many worldy affairs whilst I have strong hand capability to make publish and declare this my last will and testament in the form and manor following

This is to say first I give and ( Something...)all my houses and lands at North Luffenham aforesaid and all other of my real estates whatsover or whosoever unto my dear wife Catherine.

That was it really- He'd signed it, and it seemed to finish quite abruptly, I did check the next side,nothing. No mention of children or of anyone else.

Just for info - England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Charles Scotney
Bride's Name: Catherine Clarke
Marriage Date: 13 May 1762
Marriage Place: Uppingham,Rutland,England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15031-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1234421

[Darksecretz]

This is to say first I give and bequeath all my houses and lands at North Luffenham aforesaid and all other of my real estates whatsover or whosoever unto my dear wife Catherine.

maybe the missing word is Bequeath??

[Jessbowbag]

maybe the missing word is Bequeath??

No. short word about 5 letters - something like ''Illude''

[Jessbowbag]

Peter Roberts - a bit more modern and a bit more interesting , well, informative.

Peter Roberts late of Uppingham Shoemaker Deceased.Proven 2nd feb 1825.

This will is to grant Elizabeth Stapelton of Glayson ( Who I think is his neice) The sum of One hundred pounds when she arrives to the age of 21 years and not before.
Likewise to Ann Stapelton of Glayston ( another neice I think) the sum of one hundred pounds when she comes to the age of 21 and not before.

Likewise to Ann Stapleton widow of Glayston in Rutland ( Widow of Abraham I think, nee Roberts) The sum of fifty pound to be paid 3 months after my decease and likewise to Mary Seaton The sum of fifty pounds. The property is in the hands of ( cant read the name looks like Miss Tin man- two words) of Uppingham one hundred pounds and in George ( another unclear name) of ralford Lane Corn (or Cole) merchant road and ( unclear - maybe a name) of Mulford Lane London one hundred pounds the rest of the property is in my posession at present.

Mr Matthew Roberts shall be trustee to the children and see the rites and free hold little house with the well of water before the door shall be his and all my personal things when I am dead. And to bury me in a decent manner if I die in Uppingham or any place within 20 miles of it.

Signed sealed published and delivered by said testator Peter Roberts of Uppingham in the county of Rutlandand as his last will and testament in the presence of us who at my request and in my presence and of each other who have subscribed our names as witnessses hereto.

Thomas Cunningham
Wm. Wade
Wm.Addison

Dated 1824 Peter Roberts

Ann Roberts England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 19 Dec 1800 Glaston,Rutland,England

spouse: Abraham Stapleton

[Darksecretz]

haven't a clue then.. there is a list of possible words at the Thesaurus bit on this page

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bequeath

[Jessbowbag]

There is a Mary Roberts

Name:	Mary Roberts
Gender:	Female
Baptism/Christening Date:	07 Jan 1771

[rickster]

There is a Mary Roberts

Name:	Mary Roberts
Gender:	Female
Baptism/Christening Date:	07 Jan 1771

Jess

Thanks you have made this a tree with facts in it but does not tell me if it is my peter but i beleive al the peters in rutland were related if you have a number i will call you in england sat morning 5 hrs differents let you knwo what i have found
thanks again

did you look at the scotney will tha is my 4 grnadfather for sure

rick

[rickster]

hi Jess

sorry missed it still learning lol
god bless you
great stuff

thanks again
love to chat with you
rick

[Jessbowbag]

Ricky - I have no idea if this is your Peter - I am not sure how you wil know either.

Maybe the parish records showing the actual enrty for the marraige will show a fathers name, it may, it may not. You'd
need Rutland CRO for that I guess.

If I get time, Northants CRO does hold some bishops transcripts for Uppingham - sorry didnt have time today.

What else do you know about 'your ' Peter. Did he have children? How have you arrived at the name Peter Roberts.

Presumably if he is a GGG Grandfather he had children - if so who and where