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    Hi Everyone,


    can anyone help with the following research:


    Thomas Warner

    b. ca. 1865 in Kettering, Northamptonshire.
    m. On 13.07.1885, he married a Rosetta Agar at St.Peter's Church, Belgrave, Leicester. Witnesses were: George and Lucy Agar.
    d. 1st. Quarter of 1947 in Leicester

    Until 1923, Thomas was the licencee of the Pineapple Hotel in Leicester.

    His father also named Thomas was a shoe finisher.

    Rosetta Agar

    b. 28.09.1864, Belgrave, Leicester.
    c. 30.10.1864, Belgrave, Leicester.
    d. 3rd. Quarter of 1949 in Leicester

    Her father was a William Agar, b. ca. 1827/ 1828 in Leicester. Occupation: Labourer in local gasworks.
    Her mother's christian name was: Emily, b. ca. 1839/1840 in Nottingham. Her maiden name is still a mystery.

    Thomas and Rosetta had 10 children: Lily 1888, Alice 1889, William Alfred 1890, Roland 1893, Elsie 1896, George 1900, Horace Lennard 1902,
    Ernest 1905, Evelyn 1908 and Edwin - DOB NK.


    In the 1891 census, they appear to be living at: No. 4. The Green, Leicester and Rosetta's parents living at No. 8. The Green, Leicester.
    In the 1901 census, some appear to be living at: No. 19. Checketts Road, Leicester.

    I have a copy of their marriage certificate and a newspaper article and photograph from the Leicester Mercury newspaper dated July 1945 showing Rosetta and Thomas on the occasion of their diamond wedding anniversary (60) looking at a photograph on the mantlepiece taken on their golden wedding anniversary.

    Any help with this research, would be much appreciated.

    Brian

  • #2
    What exactly do you need to know? as you seem to have the main facts.

    Also since you have an exact date for Rosetta's birth this has presumably come from a birth certificate which should give mother's maiden name.

    Margaret

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    • #3
      Have you got an address for the Pineapple Hotel? I was looking on the 1911 and can't see them under Warner.
      Margaret

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      • #4
        there is a marriage for a William Agar to a Emily Meredith 15th April 1858 St Peters Stepney London

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        • #5
          is this the 1881
          William Agar
          Age: 53
          Birth Year:
          1828
          Birthplace: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England
          Occupation:
          Stoker In Gas Works
          Address: 27 The Green
          Census Place:
          Belgrave, Leicestershire, England

          William Agar 53
          Emily Agar 42
          Annie Agar 22
          George Agar 19
          Rosetta Agar 16
          Lucy Agar 14
          Amy M Agar 11
          Emily Agar 8
          Florence Agar 6
          Edith Agar 4

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          • #6
            Hi Margaret,

            thanks for your help - the address of the Pineapple Hotel or Pine Apple Hotel is: 16 Archdeacon Lane. The Hotel building is still there but now occupied by a catering firm. I was actually there some 2 years ago and spoke to the present owner but he was not able to help. I also contacted the brewery - but that avenue dried up! I have looked on www.historicaldirectories. org website on page 374 and found hotel in question - but at the time this edition was printed there is another licensee in residence.

            Brian

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            • #7
              Originally posted by margaretmarch View Post
              What exactly do you need to know? as you seem to have the main facts.

              Also since you have an exact date for Rosetta's birth this has presumably come from a birth certificate which should give mother's maiden name.

              Margaret
              Hi Margaret,

              a large majority of the info given in the initial thread was handed down to me - the only cerificate that I have personally obtained from the RO in Leicester is the marriage certificate of Thomas and Rosetta. Basically, I would like to ascertain exact dates where I have "ca" dates listed and general conformation of those dates and location that appear more accurate.

              Brian

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Janet H. View Post
                there is a marriage for a William Agar to a Emily Meredith 15th April 1858 St Peters Stepney London
                Hi Janet,

                that piece of info looks interesting - Rosetta's father was a William Agar - but still have to work out the London connection.

                thanks,

                Brian

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Janet H. View Post
                  is this the 1881
                  William Agar
                  Age: 53
                  Birth Year:
                  1828
                  Birthplace: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England
                  Occupation:
                  Stoker In Gas Works
                  Address: 27 The Green
                  Census Place:
                  Belgrave, Leicestershire, England

                  William Agar 53
                  Emily Agar 42
                  Annie Agar 22
                  George Agar 19
                  Rosetta Agar 16
                  Lucy Agar 14
                  Amy M Agar 11
                  Emily Agar 8
                  Florence Agar 6
                  Edith Agar 4
                  Hi Janet,

                  yes, that's them.

                  Brian

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                  • #10
                    These are the occupants of 16 Archdeacon Lane Leicester in 1911

                    MARKHAM, Joseph T Head Married M 45 1866 Inn Keeper Leicestershire Leicester
                    MARKHAM, Julia S Wife Married 16 years F 39 1872 Leicestershire Leicester
                    MARKHAM, Joseph S Son M 14 1897 Apprentice To Gardener Leicestershire Leicester
                    MARKHAM, Gladys V M Daughter F 13 1898 Scholar Leicestershire Leicester
                    MARKHAM, Oliver L Son M 4 1907 Leicestershire Leicester
                    HICKMAN, Sarah Servant Single F 30 1881 Servant Domestic Leicestershire Wymondham

                    RG14PN19178 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED14 SN47

                    So not your family at that point.
                    Margaret

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                    • #11
                      Here they are in 1911

                      WARNER, Thomas Head Married M 46 1865 Barman Kettering Norths
                      WARNER, Rosetta Wife Married 25 years F 46 1865 Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Ethel Ida Lillan Daughter Single F 24 1887 Machinst Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 22 1889 Bar Maid Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, William Son Single M 20 1891 Shoe Operator Finisher Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Thomas Roland Son Single M 18 1893 Wool Dryer Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Elsie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Machinest Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, George Henry Son M 11 1900 Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Arthur Ernest Son M 9 1902 Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Horace Lenard Son M 7 1904 Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, James Edwin Son M 5 1906 Belgrave Leicestershire
                      WARNER, Evelyn Rose Daughter F 3 1908 Newfoundpael Leicestershire

                      RG14PN19325 RG78PN1152B RD407 SD3 ED61 SN51

                      Address:
                      57 Beatrice Road Leicester

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                      • #12
                        Here's Thomas in 1881 with parents Thomas b1843 Leamington Warks and Lucy b1845 Radwell Beds.



                        Margaret

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                        • #13
                          Lucy Ellen Agar birth registered Jan qtr 1867 Barrow upon Soar, Leicester.
                          Amy M Agar " " July qtr 1869 " "
                          Emily " " Apl qtr 1872 " "
                          Edith " " Apl 1877
                          There is a Florence registered same place 1874 but there is a Florence Edith registered same place in 1875..........

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                          • #14
                            Here's Thomas in 1871 living with an aunt and uncle http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=24471635

                            Margaret

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                            • #15
                              Hi Margaret,

                              Thanks for that info - in that historical directory that I mentioned for Leicester - Betsy Markham is listed against the Pine Apple Hotel - her name however, does not appear on your list - she may well have "thrown the towel in" before the 1911 census.

                              I now know that Thomas Warner and Rosetta must have been the licensees of the Pineapple Hotel, sometime between 1911 and 1923.

                              Thats one step further, thanks again!

                              Brian

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                              • #16
                                having a bit of a look on www.familysearch.org

                                have a look at these baptisms Brian :smilee: click on link below

                                Julie
                                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                .......I find dead people

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                                • #17
                                  TA-DA

                                  Name: Emily Aldred Battersby
                                  Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1857
                                  Registration district: Basford
                                  Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
                                  Volume Number: 7b
                                  Page Number: 200

                                  spouse- WILLIAM AGAR



                                  this looks like Rosettas mums death

                                  Name: Emily Aldred Agar
                                  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
                                  Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1896
                                  Age at Death: 58
                                  Registration district: Leicester
                                  Inferred County: Leicestershire
                                  Volume: 7a
                                  Page: 124
                                  Julie
                                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                  .......I find dead people

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                                  • #18
                                    Williams Death

                                    Name: William Agar
                                    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
                                    Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
                                    Age at Death: 72
                                    Registration district: Leicester
                                    Inferred County: Leicestershire
                                    Volume: 7a
                                    Page: 124
                                    Julie
                                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                    .......I find dead people

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                                    • #19
                                      and a tree :smilee:

                                      Julie
                                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                      .......I find dead people

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                                      • #20
                                        Well done Darksecretz!

                                        Here's the birth for Thomas
                                        Thomas Warner
                                        Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1865
                                        Registration district: Kettering Inferred County: Northamptonshire
                                        Volume: 3b Page: 160

                                        Margaret

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