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    First of all Happy New Year to all on FTF. One of my major brick walls is my gggggrandfather, Ruding Veasey (Spelt numerous ways) from Leicester. What I do know is that he married Catherine Greasley on 31 Aug 1767 in Leicester, and they had 5 children over the next 9 years. I think I have found his death on FreeReg, as R_ding Veasey in 1793. However I have not been able to find a birth for him. Santa very kindly brought me the Leicester churches baptisms index for Christmas, but he is not on that.

    I have found a couple of tantalising mentions of him on the web - one for discharge from the army in 1789, aged 40 after 20 years, and also 1791 discharge after 21 years. (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/s...TE%7cTRAFALGAR) However TNA cannot find the record - this is their reply:

    "Thank you for your request for an estimate for the cost of copying records from The National Archives. Our initial examination of your request shows that specific information within this document is not easily identifiable and will require further research."

    So, never having been to TNA, would it be worthwhile me going and seeing if I can find this myself. Also if he was a Chelsea Pensioner, would there be anything on FMP - I do not have a sub with them, but can't find anything on their indexes about him (can never find how to search for Chelsea Pensioners on there).

    I have also found him mentioned on a list regarding an election in 1768, showing how everyone voted (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=P...DbL-YraA&hl=en)
    Presumably he would have needed to be 21 to vote, and so this would give a dob of at least 1747. There appear to be 3 other Veaseys at that address, presumably family members.

    Sorry this is a bit long winded, but if anyone can give any thoughts on how to progress, I would love to hear them
    Linda


    My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

  • #2
    nothing coming up on fmp's military records at all.

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    • #3
      fmp parish records do not have leicester or rutland.

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      • #4
        Thanks Kylejustin, I had hoped that with a name like that he would be easy to track.
        Linda


        My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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        • #5
          As a matter of interest, do you have any recent Veasey's in Leicester? I'm trying to track down a Frederick Veasey, born 1870. I've found his burial in 1916, but I can't find a corresponding death.

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          • #6
            Hi Mary, my Veaseys so far only go down to 1820, as I am descended from one of Rudings daughters, and I haven't yet managed to trace any one from his son John. I think that somewhere back they all come from one family, so we might eventually find a link!
            Linda


            My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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            • #7
              I think you'll find that FMP only has records from the WO96 and WO97 series at the NA - whereas your man is shown as having records in the WO121 series. I'm not sure exactly what the difference is - even having read the two record summaries - but it should certainly be possible to view the records on microfilm at the NA.

              Explanation of WO121 series (and some idea of how the records are collected and how to search the films) is here - http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/catal...6&CATREF=wo121

              Personally - as you look to live so relatively close to Kew - I'd say absolutely make the effort to go along there and see what you can find out - and experience the incredible facility - I was blown away by my 2 visits there a couple of years ago - and hope to get back this year. Do read up in advance though to be properly prepared for a first visit - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/v...-you-visit.htm

              Good Luck - and Enjoy!!

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              • #8
                Thanks, ozgirl - I probably won't be tracing this man back very far, because he's just somebody who's cohabiting with a lady in my BiL's tree. I think he may have fathered some of her children, but I'm not sure, and I was hoping his death cert might throw a bit more light on him.

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                • #9
                  Thanks Sue - yes I am only about a 45 minute drive from Kew, so easy to reach, just have to make the first step! I think I'll wait till the weather is a bit better, and the days are longer, and also get No.2 son to come with me - he's very good at helping me with research. Hopefully there will be more info on the film.

                  As a side query, does anyone know if we have to book parking at Kew now, I remember some talk of that before.
                  Linda


                  My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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                  • #10
                    Linda,

                    why not see if any member/s would be willing to meet up and do some research too? I know a while back some FTF'ers did this, I'd love to go, but, live a good 3 hours away.
                    Julie
                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                    .......I find dead people

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                    • #11
                      Just to put my oar in (sorry, chaps), I'm trying to find out more about a Chelsea pensioner from Leicester. (born, married & died there)....slightly later, married in 1817. I seem to have exhausted all the usual sources, & still have some important questions & was wondering if I could find out more from any military records that may be available.

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                      • #12
                        Have you tried FMP and the TNA website?

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                        • #13
                          Thanks, Mary.....I've tried FMP.....I'm more than usually dozy today....I'm sure I should know what TNA is. I've got his date of baptism & age as calculated from the census records after he retired. I really need to know when he began his military service to know if he's the man I think he is. The man I'm looking for is said to have been doing another job when his son was baptised, so, if he joined up before then, it would rule him out

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                          • #14
                            Sorry, TNA is the abbreviation for the National Archives.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks, Mary

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                              • #16
                                Have checked the paper for Ruding, Frederick and John, only a John Veasey has any articles. What sort of dates and info are you looking for?

                                There are 10 BMD articles
                                Elaine

                                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                • #17
                                  Hi Elaine, Ruding was born ca 1747, and died in 1793. His son John was born 1775, that's all I have on John at the moment. Catherine Veasey,b 1768, Rudings daughter married Edward Woolley in 1791, and his 3 other daughters were Jenny, b 1771, Mary Ann b.1773, married William Wakerly in 1792 and Suky b 1776. Any info on any of this lot would be great.
                                  Linda


                                  My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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                                  • #18
                                    Have you seen this marriage

                                    Leicester, St. Margaret 07-Apr 1806 Banns

                                    John Veasey Bach Mary Cooper Spin both of this parish

                                    Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
                                    The Leicester Chronicle: or, Commercial and Agricultural Advertiser (Leicester, England), Saturday, January 12, 1839
                                    marriage of Mary Ann dau of John Veasey to Henry Johnson builder, can look full details up for this one

                                    Narrowing down the dates came up with just the one article to 1850

                                    at a loss for anyone else at the moment
                                    Elaine

                                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                    • #19
                                      Thanks Elaine, have done a bit of digging on John, but it looks like he was born in 1785 (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...q26pgz0q3d3276) and so according to my baptism disc is the son of Thomas and not Ruding. I think Thomas could well be a brother of Ruding. I think I will try and sort out who is in what family, and whether they can all be related!

                                      Thanks for having a look anyway
                                      Linda


                                      My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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                                      • #20
                                        Actually Thomas was in alot and died at Welford Road if I remember right, come back to me if you need to because the Leicester coverage is good, couldn't find a sniff on my discs!
                                        Elaine

                                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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