Just hit a brick wall and stopped

[TheCamel]

I've hit a brick wall looking for Reginald Victor Hiatt

I know when he was born, when he died and where he is buried. All in Coventry so didn't seem to move around much.

Can't find any record of him on 1911 or 1901 census.

Where and what could i be doing wrong.

[margaretmarch]

Hi and welcome to FTF.

What year of birth do you have for Reginald and who else would you expect to see him living with - please give names years of birth and place of birth.

Also what was his occupation and can you confirm his name is HIATT?
Margaret

[Lin Fisher]

There is a Reginald Victor Hiatt born Warwick district Mar 1894. Is that him?

Sorry but not on my computer so can't look anything on ancestry for you.

[margaretmarch]

Is this him in 1901

HIATT, Frederick Head Married M 32 1869 Builder Meriden Warwickshire
HIATT, Amy Wife Married F 32 1869 Leamington Warwickshire
HIATT, Walter Son Single M 11 1890 Kenilworth Warwickshire
HIATT, Victor Son Single M 7 1894 Kenilworth Warwickshire

35, Arden Street, Coventry County:
Warwickshire

[Elaine ..Spain]

There is a Reginald Victor Hiatt born Warwick district Mar 1894. Is that him?

Sorry but not on my computer so can't look anything on ancestry for you.

Looks as if that one died in Coventry in 1925 June atr, aged 30.

There is also a baptism on Ancestry for a Reginald Victor Hiatt - 6 May 1894 St John the Evanlist, Kenilworth, Warwickshire. Parents Frederic and Ann(?) Jane.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=WarwickCoEBaptisms%2c&rank=0&gsfn=reginald&gsln=hiatt&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21417&o_lid=21417&o_sch=Web+Property&offerid=0%3a21318%3a0&pcat=34&fh=0&h=3756864&recoff=11+13

Also Army Pension records for a Reginald Victor Hiatt

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=BritishArmy%2c&rank=0&gsfn=reginald&gsln=hiatt&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21417&o_lid=21417&o_sch=Web+Property&offerid=0%3a21318%3a0&pcat=39&fh=0&h=450765&recoff=

[margaretmarch]

Here he is in 1901 very badly mistranscribed as KEAST !!

RG13; Piece: 2907; Folio: 175; Page: 10 and the link if you have ancestry http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=16849714

Margaret

Heck! it's the same as I found elsewhere :(

[margaretmarch]

Have checked the address they were at in 1901 in the 1911 and they are not there - can't seem to find them at all in 1911!
Margaret

[Elaine ..Spain]

Have checked the address they were at in 1901 in the 1911 and they are not there - can't seem to find them at all in 1911!
Margaret

I can't see them in 1911 either!
There is a possible death for the mother Amy - 1909 Coventry, aged 43.

[margaretmarch]

Here's the family in 1911 at the address he was discharged from the army to

LEESON, Frederick Head Married
21 years M 46 1865 Bricklayer Warwick Coventry Warwick
LEESON, Alice E Wife Married 21 years F 39 1872 Warwick Kenilworth Warwick
LEESON, Percy Son Single M 20 1891 Machinist U S A
LEESON, Ida Daughter Single F 18 1893 Liner U S A
LEESON, Hubert Son M 14 1897 Cycle Works Bham Warwickshire
LEESON, Elsie Daughter F 13 1898 School Sutton Coldfield Warwickshire
LEESON, Laura Daughter F 11 1900 School Sutton Coldfield Warwickshire
LEESON, Wilfred Son M 10 1901 School Stoke Warwickshire
LEESON, Lily Daughter F 5 1906 School Coventry Warwickshire
LEESON, Walter Son M 4 1907 Coventry Warwickshire
LEESON, Albert Son M 2 1909 Coventry Warwickshire

RG14PN18533 RG78PN1110 RD390 SD1 ED23 SN155


Address:
3 Barras Lane Coventry County:
Warwickshire

[margaretmarch]

Just checked the passenger lists going out of UK and nothing there for Victor, Walter or Frederic

Margaret

[margaretmarch]

Can you confirm we have found the right people please now that you have had chance to look at the 1901 census and the other results that we have found for you.

Nothing is showing in 1911 so we need to have some idea of family circumstances to see if that will give any clues to where they might be found.

Margaret

[JudithM]

1911 Victor HIATT aged 17 Laborer in a bicycle chain co born Kelinworth is a boarder in the household of William Allen, 61 Spon? Street Coventry

[margaretmarch]

1911 Victor HIATT aged 17 Laborer in a bicycle chain co born Kelinworth is a boarder in the household of William Allen, 61 Spon? Street Coventry

Wow! how and where did you find that Judith?
Margaret

[margaretmarch]

Ahh see it now on ancestry and father is there too - why didn't I see that before?? LOL
Margaret

[JudithM]

Wow! how and where did you find that Judith?
Margaret

I searched Ancestry for any Victor aged 17 in Coventry but in fact they had his name transcribed correctly FMP have him as Victor Heatt. His father Frederick was also boarding there.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Ahh see it now on ancestry and father is there too - why didn't I see that before?? LOL
Margaret

Well done Judith - I couldn't see it either.
Doesn't help that place of birth has been transcribed as Kenarth, Wards - when it should be Kelinworth, Warks! (or Kenilworth might have been better!)

[Chrissie Smiff]

The baptism link on reply 5 from Elaine actually reads Amy Jane Hiatt and has been mistranscribed. I believe this is the parents marriage - Frederick Hiatt to Amy Jane Slater - April-June 1889 - Coventry ref 6d 710.

[Chrissie Smiff]

It would seem that mothers age was more accurate at death in 1909 than it was in 1901 census. The most likely birth for her is - Amy J Slater - Oct-Dec 1866 - Warwick ref 6d 491.

[Chrissie Smiff]

The Mrs Leeson on Margarets post 9, that he was discharged from the army to, appears to be Alice Elizabeth Slater, who married Frederick Leeson in 1890. Probably his aunt (sister to his mother).

[margaretmarch]

The Mrs Leeson on Margarets post 9, that he was discharged from the army to, appears to be Alice Elizabeth Slater, who married Frederick Leeson in 1890. Probably his aunt (sister to his mother).

Thanks for that Chrissie - I thought there might have been a connection as he gave the name of Mrs Leeson on his army papers and I didn't hink he would have done that if he was simply a paying guest in her house.

Margaret