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  • Help needed to make links - Hartle family Derbyshire

    Hello everyone
    I think I'm nearly there on researching my step daughter's maternal side for her Christmas present!! I am waiting for certificates, but I'm not sure whether they will be here on time.
    I have son George Hartle born Hayfield in 1920 March 1/4
    His parents are a George Hartle noted as Coal Merchant but deceased by 1940, on his son's marriage certificate - father George was married to mother Minnie Wild Sept 1/4 1915 Hayfield.
    It is the father, George I'm trying to track back (already sorted Minnie's family) - was he the George Hartle born 1895/6 in Mellor (I thought he too was born in Hayfield) - is this his family, father yet another George, mother Elizabeth, sister Enid, on the 1901 and 1911 censuses living in Saddleworth????
    The more I look the more concerned I am that I am reading this wrongly!
    Any help, just another pair of eyes checking would help.
    My thanks
    Rachel

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    If George jnr was born in 1920 and by the time he was married in 1940, his father had died, then there's a death of a 45yo George Hartle in Hayfield district in 1935 that would seem to match.

    If that is right, then George snr would have been born in 1890. I've looked on A******y and found a George Hartle b. 1890 who on the 1891 census is the son of Thomas and Eliza and it says b. Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbys. By 1901, his place of birth is given as Bugsworth Hall, Derbys and in 1911, he's still with his parents and siblings living at The Grange, Low Leighton, New Mills, Derbys. He's a "factory labourer" and his father is a "stone mason".

    Does that help, or merely confuse?

    STG

    Edited to say : And New Mills is just along the road from Hayfield, so in 1911 he was defo in the right part of Derbyshire.
    Last edited by SmallTownGirl; 15-12-11, 14:45.
    Always looking for Goodwins in Berkshire.

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    • #3
      Wow STG that is interesting!!!!! And makes so much more sense, re places, as you rightly say - everything in the wider family happens in New Mills, Hayfield and Chapel en le Frith - Thank you so much, that has me on a new track
      Rachel

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      • #4
        His service records are on A******* Born 1890 Coal dealer, 9 Jodrell St, Newtown, New Mills married to Minnie Wild 7/7/1915 St Marys, Disley, Cheshire. Son Frederick born 20/5/1917 Newtown.

        Moggie

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        • #5
          On the 1911 census George's older brother John, age 29, is listed as a coal merchant ...

          STG
          Always looking for Goodwins in Berkshire.

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          • #6
            btw folks, you can say 'Ancestry'.. :smilee:
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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            • #7
              Thank you so much Moggy and STG - the World War One records were the most detailed I have ever seen, oh and what a naughty George he was, offering Sick Leave notes to people in hospital for 2s 6p !! Was court martialled for that and got 56 days!! But thanks to you all I am now on the right track - it just goes to show I was correct to be concerned about the other record which was not correct.
              Have a brilliant Christmas everyone
              Rachel:xmas_sign:

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