William Bond

[Noel Bond]

I have been attempting to find Parents for William Bond.I’v had no problems finding information for his wife and children but his Parents allude me.
William Bond.
Birth ABT 1766 in London, England.
Marriage 2 May 1786 Deptford St Paul to Sarah Acton 1766 – 1841
Occupation 1786 – 1841 Shipwright.

I have found Marriage Banns but no full Marriage record with Parents name's.



Regards.

[Heather Positive Thinker]

Hi Noel, its your distant cousin, Heather xxx Welcome

[Heather Positive Thinker]

Noel, I think the 2 May document IS the marriage - fathers werent named at that date.

[kylejustin]

parents aren't mentioned in english marriages- just the father. and that begins 1837. anything pre 1837, you might find some info in a marriage license-but usually if a minor was getting married.

[Noel Bond]

Hi Heather,
I was thinking it was you, the Positive thinker.
Maybe if I can connect him to somthing he did in his time, like Sarah's Acton family line there must be somthing big in William's Bond family line.
Thks kylejustin, I only need his father's name so I can move on.

Noel

[Heather Positive Thinker]

Noel, I think the possible way forward is apprenticeship records. Trouble is we dont know where he came from - but as he was a shipwright he would certainly have to serve an apprenticeship and his fathers name may very well be on the papers.

[Guest]

http://www.shipwrights.co.uk/

this may help

[Noel Bond]

Thks Val,
Have been to that site in my travles ,no luck back then.

Genealogy Shipwright's
Many people researching family history come across a reference to a shipwright forefather, and ask the Company for further information. Sadly, they are usually disappointed. There are two major reasons for this:-
. certainly by 16th century, and probably much earlier, the Shipwrights' Company had become an association for the proprietors of the private shipyards on the north bank of the Thames below the City, in Blackwall for example. Such men had been trained as craftsmen, but were no longer "on the tools".
. by the late 18th century some 60% or more of all craftsman shipwrights in Great Britain were Crown employees in the Royal Dockyards of Deptford, Woolwich, Sheerness, Chatham, Portsmouth, and Plymouth


Therefore, if your shipwright ancestor did not work in a civilian shipyard on the Thames, he is unlikely to have been a member of the Company, and your research will have to focus on the records of the locality in which he worked. The following Company records exist:-

• The original but incomplete records of the Shipwrights from about 1620 to the 1920s are lodged with the Guildhall Library in the City of London.
• The Guildhall Library also holds a copy of the "Records of the Shipwrights' Company" in two volumes, a digest of the above made by C H Ridge in 1939/1946, giving all the names recorded.
• The Company holds a recently-compiled list of Liverymen admitted between 1858 and the present day.

N.B. All Company papers between the 1920s and 1941 were lost in the destruction of Barbers' Hall in 1941.)

Those researching family history will be well aware of the numerous websites dedicated to a wide variety of records. However, within the maritime field in Great Britain, and apart from the specifically Company records mentioned above:

• the personal records of Royal Navy and Royal Dockyard people are held at the Public Record Office, Kew, Surrey TW9 4DU, website
• HM Dockyard Plymouth has a museum website
• the Registry of Shipping and Seamen holds a library of seaman and ship records, and has an information pack on those, and others transferred to other locations such as the PRO. If a shipwright signed on as a ship's carpenter, he may be recorded there.

[Heather Positive Thinker]

It does seem likely he was at the Royal Dockyards, in both Deptford and also down in Portsmouth doesnt it. From his marriage and the birth place of kids.

[Noel Bond]

Yes Heather,
I'm not thinking he was just at Deptford,did some work at both I'm thinking.

[Heather Positive Thinker]

Yes, thats what I meant Noel. Seem to remember one of the kids born Portsmouth and of course his wife was from Deptford. So very likely Royal Docks in both places.

[Noel Bond]

Could this be getting close?? http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.0...ESSID=vzofxpjx

[Heather Positive Thinker]

I see that there are a lot of Bonds in the new capital records on ancestry?

[Noel Bond]

Found Apprenticeship's for William Robert Bond's Son's there in the tree now.

Thks :-)

[Heather Positive Thinker]

Ive found our, Charles and John Acton Noel and reference to Robert Acton, Charles dad (who we refer to as Robert the disinherited ).

[Noel Bond]

If we find every record known to man we can't go wrong ;)
Have'nt found William Robert Bond's Watermen rocord yet that may get me closer to William's records.
Are you'r records in the tree now?

[Heather Positive Thinker]

Noel, yes I think they are. There are an awful lot received from Will Acton that I havent added yet - will have to get round to that, or just transferring it over from your tree Also tons of stuff that Peter Baizley has sent me and Ive not added.

Ive added to the Freemen of the City Records thread on here as we (Peter Baizley my cousin) and I were confused by Charles becoming a freeman through redemption of the Glovers Guild (and paying a fair whack to do so) when he was a waterman, as you know.

Anyway, we know now if we come across any further discrepancies of that nature that it was due to the watermen lightermen not having their own seal until 1835.

[melbanellie]

Hi Noel - I can't add anything at the moment but as another of Charles Acton's descendents newly posting on the forum I am also ferreting for anything relevant to our family, so if I do find anything helpful I will let you know. I see that John Cook Acton's wife, Rebecca Ann Hills', family were also boat builders/shipwrights in the Deptford area (I am sure you know this anyway) - I am often surprised how one family leads to another.

Happy New Year from a distant cousin!

[Noel Bond]

Thankyou,
I have found a Cousin, an Acton-Bond who has Pappers in his Attic.
He knows of Grandparants William and Sarah.
Also knows of the Acton-Bond's in Canada,They had traced the Bond's back to a Bond who hadproperty in Ipswich in about 1700.

[PhotoFamily]

The Shipwrights Company records also exist here:
www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog-search-api%3A8080%2Fwww-catalogapi-webservice%2Fitem%2F176144

and can apparently be loaned to an fhc near you...

the book too:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog-search-api%3A8080%2Fwww-catalogapi-webservice%2Fitem%2F285136

(books aren't loaned, but it is also filmed)
tho you found the apprenticeship, so maybe you don't need either?