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  • Peter Paul Whelan US census help

    Hello all,

    I have seen Peter Paul Whelan born 1874 Ireland on the 1920 and 1930 US census living in New York with his wife Cecilia.
    It was sent to me by email but I cannot view it properly and see what his job is in either one. I know he workedfor the French Embassy but I cannot see in what capacity it was on either census.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Danny
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  • #2
    On the 1920 census he looks to down as Paul Wralen on Ancestry. The 1930 I was sent states its a declaration index (Not quite sure what that means) He died in 1938.
    He was known as Pierre Whelan when he worked for the French Embassy.

    Danny
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    • #3
      in 1910 he is a Secretary in The French Embassy

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      • #4
        Hiya Val

        I Have the 1910 census info (but thank you for looking) Its the 20 and 30 census that are causing me bother.

        Danny
        http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=528974734

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        • #5
          I'm a bit tired at the moment was going to work forward but got to go to bed if nobody has done it I will tomorrow
          nite

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          • #6
            Cheers Val.

            Danny
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            • #7
              1920 looks like Correspondant Office its very blurred

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              • #8
                Yeah I could make out Office but the first word I couldn't and still can't.

                Danny
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                • #9
                  1930 - Telegraph Operator; son is doing something with Telephone, but I can't make out the first word

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                  • #10
                    Quite a strange job move (Unless its with the Embassy). He worked for the Embassy for over 30 years and then is a Telegraph operator.

                    Danny
                    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=528974734

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                    • #11
                      yes it does say Telegraph Operator maybe he was in the Embassy still?

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                      • #12
                        son says Packer in Factory in 1920

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                        • #13
                          I suppose he could still work for the Embassy but from Newspaper articles that I have seen of him in them he was in charge of the Consulate in Philadelphia and then Vice Consul in Washington. Seems a bit of a fall from grace.

                          Danny
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                          • #14
                            Can you be a US citizen and the Consul of of a foreign government at the same time? Also, this is the beginning of the Depression. Wonder what foreign governments were doing with their consul offices.

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                            • #15
                              He was married to Cecilia LeGuillou and lived in Paris for a while (Where he married as well). While he worked for them he also visited France. He was referred to as Pierre in all the newspaper clippings that I have with him in them.

                              Danny
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                              • #16
                                Did you check for obits in NY & Philadelphia papers?

                                There's a short one in NY Times - doesn't say much
                                Last edited by PhotoFamily; 22-10-11, 16:04.

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                                • #17
                                  I didn't look to be fair. Completely slipped my mind as been emailing Washington French Embassy hoping they will direct me to the archives for his work career.
                                  Where would I look?
                                  If its not to much trouble could you let me know what the short one in the times says?

                                  Danny
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                                  • #18
                                    Whelan - On Nov. 21, 1938, Peter P., beloved husband of Cecile. Funeral from Universal Chapel, Lexington Ave. at 52d St., Wednesday, Nov. 23, at 2:30 P.M.

                                    I've looked for Universal Chapel - it seems to have been a funeral home, apparently not in existence now, but it pops up with several genealogy references for apparently well-to-do people.

                                    Do you know which church they attended?

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                                    • #19
                                      Thank you for that. I'm not sure which Church they attended but I'm sure they would have what with all his family being very religious.
                                      At least there is finally a reference to his death as the death date was given to me by a family member (Not concrete until now).

                                      Wonder where to email for a newspaper article on his death.

                                      Danny
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                                      • #20
                                        good luck with that. I have a similar problem with Chicago relatives. It cost money to put obits in the paper, and the city was too big to be concerned about any but its most prominent citizens.

                                        The trick is to find small local, community papers. I don't know if Historical Newspapers includes any for NYC (www.newspaperarchive.com). There's some effort to preserve old newspapers by local, state & national government. Don't have the names, tho.

                                        I doubt there's any more info in the NY Times, however. I think it would have shown up in Ancestry. It's search mechanism is not perfect, so possibly.

                                        You could post on Ancestry's boards, see if anyone knows more
                                        Last edited by PhotoFamily; 22-10-11, 16:55.

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