Australian Records

[holcan]

Could sks look up the following entry for me on Ancestry as I do not have worldwide membership
Ralph Barlow ORRELL
"Australia Death Index, 1787-1985"
Thanks

[dicole]

This what the index says:

Name: Ralph Barlow Orrell
Death Place: Meredith, Victoria
Age: 49
Father's Name: Ralph Dawson Orrell
Mother's Name: Marian Barlow
Registration Year: 1932
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11955
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883


There is also an entry in the UK Probate Calendar

ORRELL Ralph Barlow of Elaine Victoria Austalia died 20 September 1932 probate Melbourne to Walter Robert Rylah Solicitor, Effects 2298 pds 11s 8p in England. Sealed 13 June.

THe 1931 Electoral Roll for Ballaraat shows his address as Elaine, grazier.

Di

[holcan]

This what the index says:

Name: Ralph Barlow Orrell
Death Place: Meredith, Victoria
Age: 49
Father's Name: Ralph Dawson Orrell
Mother's Name: Marian Barlow
Registration Year: 1932
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11955
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883


There is also an entry in the UK Probate Calendar

ORRELL Ralph Barlow of Elaine Victoria Austalia died 20 September 1932 probate Melbourne to Walter Robert Rylah Solicitor, Effects 2298 pds 11s 8p in England. Sealed 13 June.

THe 1931 Electoral Roll for Ballaraat shows his address as Elaine, grazier.

Di

Thanks very much for all the info. I had seen the Probate entry but not the Electoral Roll. I assume that grazier in Australia equates to Farmer in England.
Thanks again

[dicole]

no trouble.
Grazier is more specific than farmer - I think a farmer grows crops and animals, whereas a grazier only grazes animals - sheep and cattle.

A quick look at the newspapers on-line (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper) shows Ralph died after being thrown from his horse, and further notices show he married Grace Edith (who died 1947) and had two sons, Geoffrey and Walter.

If you want any more info, just say !!

Di

[holcan]

Any further info. on wife and children would be great.
Michael

[dicole]

Only time for a quick look now, but will look again later in the day

Melbourne Argus 22 Sep 1932

FARMER THROWN FROM HORSE
GEELONG Wednesday. - Mr Ralph Barlow Orrell, aged 49 years, farrmer of Elaine was found deadon the roadway by his wife late last night. Orrell had set out on horseback for a neighbor's place about 1 mile distant for some medicine, and after some hours, his wife, concerned at his non return walked along the road when she discovere his body. It is believed he was thrown from his horse.

Di

[niftynannie]

The childrens names were
Walter Barlow Orrell died 14/3/1939 aged 23 yrs.Walter was the youngest of the two boys.
MOTOR-CYCLIST DIES

SHEPPARTON, Tuesday -Walter B Orrell, of Forest street, Sunshine, who was admitted to Mooroopna Base Hospital on August 28 suffering from a broken thigh, a broken arm, and injuires to the head, died in the hospital last night Orrell was riding a motor-cycle when it collided with a car near Murchison East

Geoffery Penrose Orrell B-1913 D-13/5/1998 Victoria

There seems to be a sister of Ralph's at Elaine,Victoria
10/7/1939
Our old friend Miss Orrell of Elaine, Victoria, gave two silver memorial cups to be competed for each year, by the boys and girls of the Church. These cups are in memory of Ralph Barlow Orrell and Mary Ann Gribble— Miss Orrell's brother and the mother of tbe Chaplain of St. George's. Miss Orrell has undertaken to arrange for the engraving of the winners' names upon tbe cups each year. These cups are kept on brackets in the Church and are awarded for conduct and attendance at Holy Communion.
Miss Orrell has again made a gift of a brass cross and two vases for the Lady Chapel Altar, this is to be a Memorial to her young nephew 'Walter Orrell' who passed away recently as a result of an accident May he rest in peace

Electoral Roll 1954
Draper St,Ocean Grove,Queenscliffe Victoria
Geoffrey Penrose Orrell ,Occ Shearer
Annie Mona Orrell

There is a tree and it looks like there is one son born to this couple.

Cheers Sue

[holcan]

Thanks Sue that is great info. Ties up loose ends
Michael

[holcan]

Sue,
Sorry to bother you again.
The Sister in question is Marion Orrell and on Ancestry it shows Two entries for passages to Brisbane.
Could you tell me what the full details are.
Thanks again
Michael

[dicole]

Ancestry shows that Ralph Barlow Orrell married Grace Edith Pritchett in 1911 in Victoria.

From the TROVE website:

Melburne Argus 23 Feb 1911
Marriages
ORRELL - PRITCHETT. - on the 25th January, at Holy Trinity, Oakleigh, by Rev Canon Sutton R.D., assisted by Rev M J B Bennett, BA, BD, Ralph Barlow Orrell, of Cranbourne, younger son of the late R.D. Orrell Esq, Bolton England, to Edith Grace, youngest daughter of the late G Penrow Pritchett Esq and Mrs Pritchett "Warroon" Oakleigh. At home 27th and 28 th February, at Warroon.

Melbourne Argus 6 Mar 1943
ORRELL-HANCOCK.-On February 27, at St. Clement's Church, Elsternwick, by the Rev. H. Frewin. Annie Mona (Ann), fifth daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Hancock. Ballarat, to Geoffrey Penrose, elder son of the late Mr. R. B. Orrell and Mrs. Orrell, Moorilla, Elaine.

Di

[dicole]

From Ancestry

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Marion Orrell Name: Marion Orrell
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 15 Apr 1911
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Hobart]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
Ship Name: Orsova
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Orsova' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 128278

The image shows, her "port of embarkation" was Melbourne. I think Brisbane was the fist port of Departure in Australia.

[dicole]

Maybe this is the return trip - Incoming to Victoria

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Miss M Orrell Name: Miss M Orrell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 35
Arrival Date: 28 Aug 1914
Arrival Port: Brisbane, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Wiltshire
Nationality: British

The 1949 one looks like Mrs M Orrell returning to the UK, boarding in Brisbane, as her last country of residence is England, and a contact address is given as Bolton Lancs.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Mrs M Orrell Name: Mrs M Orrell
Birth Date: abt 1879
Age: 70
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 28 Oct 1949
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Suez]
Ship Name: Ormonde
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ormonde' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 141866

[dicole]

Ralph Orrell came to Australia aboard the ship AFRIC in 1904.

(Victorian PRO unassisted migrants indexes)


PS, I Just remembered, my 4xgreat grandmother, was Margaret Orrell born about 1770 and married George Beever in Manchester.

Di

[holcan]

Ancestry shows that Ralph Barlow Orrell married Grace Edith Pritchett in 1911 in Victoria.

From the TROVE website:

Melburne Argus 23 Feb 1911
Marriages
ORRELL - PRITCHETT. - on the 25th January, at Holy Trinity, Oakleigh, by Rev Canon Sutton R.D., assisted by Rev M J B Bennett, BA, BD, Ralph Barlow Orrell, of Cranbourne, younger son of the late R.D. Orrell Esq, Bolton England, to Edith Grace, youngest daughter of the late G Penrow Pritchett Esq and Mrs Pritchett "Warroon" Oakleigh. At home 27th and 28 th February, at Warroon.

Melbourne Argus 6 Mar 1943
ORRELL-HANCOCK.-On February 27, at St. Clement's Church, Elsternwick, by the Rev. H. Frewin. Annie Mona (Ann), fifth daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Hancock. Ballarat, to Geoffrey Penrose, elder son of the late Mr. R. B. Orrell and Mrs. Orrell, Moorilla, Elaine.

Di

Thanks Di, had tried the Trove site, but whilst I got certain info it did not come up with these announcements.
Now added to tree and retained. Thanks