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  • John Turley Fisher 1891

    Hi All

    Can anyone find this chap for me in 1891 ? (or 1851)

    John Turley FISHER (1822-25 Jan 1892)
    bapt 01 Sep 1822 in Christ Church,Oldbury,WOR son of William, boatman
    died 25 Jan 1892 in 8 Hartington Rd,Lozells,Birmingham 6d 265 age 69
    married 25 Dec 1845 in Walsgrave on Sowe,WAR to Ann Hill and had 4 children:
    William Fisher (1847)
    Thomas Fisher (1848)
    John Turley Fisher (Q3 1858)
    Jane Fisher (1860)

    census:
    1841 in Spon Lane,West Bromwich,STS 18 boatman n
    1861 in 87/5 Branston St,Birmingham,WAR head m 38 coal dealer Oldbury,WOR RG9/2165/090/144
    1871 in 88 Branston St,Birmingham,WAR head m 48 coal dealer Oldbury,STS RG10/3128/075/185
    1881 in 88 Branston St,Birmingham,WAR head m 58 coal dealer Oldbury,STS RG11/3004/???/242

    will 22 Feb 1892 (John Turley of 8 Hartington Road Lozells Birmingham retired coal merchant died 25 January 1892 probate Birmingham 22 February to Arthur James Norton draper Effects £2640 0s 3d resworn May 1892 £2760 0s 3d) in Birmingham (not bad for son of a boatman!! )

    He does not appear to be at his death or 1881 address.
    Mike in Droitwich

    My family tree is on
    http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com

  • #2
    Mike,

    do you know why there is a ten yr gap between William/Thomas and the younger two children?
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

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    • #3
      I had noticed but don't know why as I can't find the family in the 1851 census too!!
      Mike in Droitwich

      My family tree is on
      http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com

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      • #4
        Mmmm you not on your own Mike, I can't see them either, not unless he was previously married and the two elder ones are from that marriage? though it doesnt help you find them in 51.
        Julie
        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

        .......I find dead people

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        • #5
          I'm not having much luck either.
          Elaine







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          • #6
            I think I have found William Fisher in 1851. Was Joseph Hill Anns father??




            Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2066; Folio: 593; Page: 15; GSU roll: 87326-87328.
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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            • #7
              having looked I still can't find a trace of them except william in 1851 praps they were on a boat somewhere?
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

              .......I find dead people

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              • #8
                Hi There

                Sorry about delay in replying , my wife organised my life for a couple of days!!!

                Yes I have had William as per 1851 census since 2008 bapt at St Lawrence Foleshill.
                I can't seem to find the next son Thomas bapt St Lawrence 27 Aug 1848 in the 1851 census but have him in the 1861/71 censuses.
                Mike in Droitwich

                My family tree is on
                http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com

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                • #9
                  In Birmingham Post Office Directory 1855 he is a coal dealer in Branston Street.
                  & then on till Kelly's 1888
                  Last edited by Mike Fisher; 16-09-11, 09:41.
                  Mike in Droitwich

                  My family tree is on
                  http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com

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                  • #10
                    so it is possible then, that from 48-55 he was on a boat? (possibly the Coventry Canal, thats the first one that springs to mind in that area!)
                    Julie
                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                    .......I find dead people

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                    • #11
                      There should still be a census entry for him as they covered boats too.
                      Margaret

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by margaretmarch View Post
                        There should still be a census entry for him as they covered boats too.
                        Margaret
                        yep, I know they did, but I have looked and can't see him/them
                        Julie
                        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                        .......I find dead people

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