census help wanted.

[Janet H.]

Hi

I have a William Raistrick married to a Julia Haynes in Bradford Yorkshire Oct qtr 1866
She died in 1879.
I cant find her on any census prior to her marriage . Am assuming she was born 1843c in Gloucester ( as per the 1871 census where she is with William and her first two children Emma (1867) and Edgar (1869)
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4501; Folio: 39; Page: 29; GSU roll: 847129.

any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
Jan x

[Darksecretz]

hi Jan,

do you have her marriage certificate at all? if so, what was her fathers name/occ please?

just parking this here so I know where I'm looking :smilee:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=julia&gsln=rais***&msbdy=1843&msbpn__ftp=Gloucestershire%2c+England&msbpn=5265&msbpn_PInfo=7-|0|0|3257|3251|0|0|0|5265|0|0|&cpxt=1&catBucket=rstp&uidh=lg3&msbdp=2&cp=11&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=26096930&db=uki1871&indiv=1

[Janet H.]

Hi

Not got the cert yet, only just found the marriage details.
I have looked on the census records but couldnt find anything for her
Jan x

[Darksecretz]

hmmn I cant see anything remotely like it, she claims to have been born in painswick, and marries in Bradford.. why? was she in service? or was she actually born in Bradford? i'll have another look

[Janet H.]

William Raistrick was born in Idle Yorkshire, maybe like you say she was in service.
Jan

[Chrissie Smiff]

I think I may have her in 1861 but she has been mistranscribed as Hannies. The trouble is that it somes up on the wrong page. Give me a minute and I'll be back

[Chrissie Smiff]

It's this one but I think it's coming up on the wrong page -
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...9349444&recoff=

[Chrissie Smiff]

Ognore me - I think she is too old anyway - sorry.

[Janet H.]

lol Chrissie these searches sure do test us. thanks anyway
Jan

[Elaine ..Spain]

It's this one but I think it's coming up on the wrong page -
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...9349444&recoff=

Here's the image for that one Chrissie - coming up on page 11, not 7

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8767&path=Lancashire.Ashton+under+Lyne.Ashton+Town.31.11

[Janet H.]

Thanks Elaine.
x

[Chrissie Smiff]

Thank you Elaine Unfortunately she doesn't quite fit does she lol

[Guest]

there is a birth for a Julia Hayes in Dec quarter 1840 11 322 Gloucestershire ? but cannot find one in 1843ish ?

[cpdavis35]

i can't find her in the births, could she have been married before 1866? She could have gone into service and married up north? just an idea as can't find a Julia Haynes on the census unless she was born 10 years earlier...

[Chrissie Smiff]

I wondered about that cp when I couldn't find a birth. The first thing I did was cross check marriages for male Haynes with a Julia between about 1857 and 1866, then looked for deaths for the men. I found one that looked promising but unfortunately the groom didn't die.

Ohhhhhh that sounds awful doesn't it.

[Janet H.]

oh blimey, this gets more complicated - sorry girls
Jan x

[Janet H.]

just checked the cheshirebmd to see if I could find a Haynes marriage to a Julia but nothing ..
looks like I will have to get the cert after all :-(

[Darksecretz]

so, what scenarios do we have?
1) she was previously married
2) she wasnt registered at birth
3) she was born earlier/later?

[Chrissie Smiff]

I think it's the only way Janet.

[Guest]

1841
Julia Haynes born 1840 Gloucestershire
H0107 353 16 26 living in Cheltenham