Is there a doctor in the house?

[Val and George]

Is it possible for someone with access to the London Metropolitan Archives to have a look at a burial for a James Lemain please
He was the son of Abraham of Bethnal Green and he was buried 24/9/1733 @ St Dunstans.
I am unable to decipher the last word - which is where the cause of death/age are given, and was hoping that someone might be able to help.
He died young - but I can see it doesn't say 'stillborn' - whatever the word is it comes up time and again on other burials.
Your help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

[Elaine ..Spain]

My first thought is that it is
James son of Abra Lemaine of BG followed by another word, BG meaning Bethnal Green

[Elaine ..Spain]

Looking through the following pages, I think the bit after BG is the father's occupation.
I can see ... or Poplar Waterman, of BG Victu (Victualer), of BG Baker.
On your one the abbreviation looks like .... of BG Wea

[Elaine ..Spain]

Wea = weaver ??

There is a burial on 25 October 1745 St Dunstan & All Saints for Abraham Lemaine, with his occupation given as weaver.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&f35=abra*&f37=lemain*&sx=&f21=&f25=&rg_f29__date=&rs_f29__date=0&f2=&f12=&f6=&f22=&f26=&rg_f30__date=&rs_f30__date=0&f3=&f13=&f7=&f23=&f27=&rg_f31__date=&rs_f31__date=0&f4=&f14=&f8=&f67=&f69=&f51=&f53=&f59=&f61=&f82=&gskw=&prox=1&db=lmaearlyparish&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=4&h=500306&recoff=5+6

[Val and George]

Sorry Elaine - it is actually the second entry that I was after - for some reason they have entered the burial twice which gives the age and cause of death.
I'm sorry I didn't mention it.

But thankyou for the bit about WEA - I had decided it must mean 'weaver' - or BG 'west' - but now you've confirmed weaver I am sure it doesn mean his occupation.

So, if you have a minute - could you look at the second entry for the same burial please. (I wish I could include the site as you did, but I haven't worked out how to do that yet)

[Elaine ..Spain]

Sorry, Val. I see what you mean now.
I think it starts with Co.... almost looks like Comitl
The two causes of death that come to mind are Consumption and Convulsion, but these are on other pages in the register and your one doesn't seem to match.

.. and if you want to include the link to the site, just copy the url (web address) that you will see at the top of your browser page and paste it into your thread, starts with http://www...... etc

[Val and George]

Thanks for looking Elaine - whatever it is that is written, is on quite a lot of the entries - I was hoping there might be another person writing in the book that would be more legible - but unfortunately not.

It must be something common - and I notice they didn't put his age either which was annoying to say the least, although I think he was only a young child. I haven't found his birth yet but I think it was c.1730 which would fit in with the other children in the family.

I'll give the c&p a try next time. Many thanks.

[Kate P]

Is it possibly Commital, i.e. indicating that the event is a burial? To do with commiting to the earth, etc?

Kate x

[Val and George]

I'm not sure Kate - it could be that, but the other entries show things like - stillborn - appoplexy - consumption - age (for the more elderly) - so I would imagine the written comment is more to do with the ailment rather than the burying. I've been going back through other pages, but unfortunately it always looks the same.

It is all very frustrating.....

[Chrissie Smiff]

Well I haven't found out what it is yet Val, but I am a lot wiser about old ailments after studying a very long list of them

[Anne in Carlisle]

I've tried but can't get an angle on it. Whatever it is there seems to be a lot of entries similar. Mostly they seem to be for those with no age (presumably babies) or young children. I could be short for Convulsions but there do seem to be a lot!

Anne

[Chrissie Smiff]

p.s. I think you mean 24/10/1733 not September Val.
This is the link for anyone else who fancies the challenge -

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1624&iid=31280_194786-00201&fn=James&ln=Lemaine&st=r&ssrc=&pid=3493045

[Darksecretz]

I do think that it is the CAUSE of death, if you look at some of the entries it says 'smallpox' 'distemper' etc... so woudl think it'll be something like that.

edit to say: I dont think it says 'convulsions' as that word looks different to this one.

[darannon]

The word does look like 'committ' with 2 t's, or even 'convict'. Really not sure what it's meant to be, as you say it's written by many names, and they aren't all children. Hope you find out what it is and let us all know (:
Darannon

[Val and George]

Thankyou to all for your comments - this is frustrating to say the least, and if I ever do find out Darannon I will certainly post it, as I am sure I am not the only person who has wondered as to it's meaning.

[Darksecretz]

hmmn, I have been looking at earlier images in this set, and I now think it does say convulsions, albiet in a abbreviated way, Convul then the 't' but it is written such that it looks like Convutt, if you have a look on this page it shows what I mean.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.St+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1733-1734.3&sid=&gskw=

[Chrissie Smiff]

I e-mailed someone on a genealogy websie that specialises in old ailment terms.
This is his reply -

I came to the conclusion that it has to be infantile eclampsia or convulsions that is the listed cause of death. I believe that they are abbreviating the term and spelling "convult" which is a good match for most of the entries.

[Val and George]

Thankyou both very much - a good result - and much appreciated.

.......there do seem to be a lot of burials with that alongside - and no age given - so quite possibly all were newborns or very young infants.