I need some help with this lady as I am finding her a bit tricky but would love to put all the pieces together.
I have found her Baptism on LMA: Louisa Vaillant Coster 14/11/1828. Born 25/9/1826. Parents John & Elizabeth Coster living in City Terrace and Baptised in St Giles without Cripplegate, City of London. They Baptised another daughter, Harriet at the same time. She was born 4/10/1828.
In the 1841 census she appears with her family in Middlesex, St Leonard, Hoxton Old Town as follows:
John Coster 40 School M N
Elizabeth 35 Y
John 15 Y
Louisa 14 N
Harriet 12 Y
Mary 7 Y
Ann 5 Y
Emma 3 Y
Oliver 4 Mths Y
I have the Baptisms of all the children from LMA.
In 1851 she appears in Middlesex, Shoreditch, Hoxton Old Town as follows:
John Coster 50 Music String Maker B West Dean, Wilts
Helen 7 Scholar B Shoreditch
Louisa Penman 24 Mar Dressmaker B United States
Joseph Penman 3 Grandson B Hoxton, Middx
Eliza Penman 1 Grand dau B Hoxton, Middx
In 1861 she appears in Middlesex, Hackney St John, West Hackney with her Brother in law as follows:
Henry Bailey 27 Widower (he married Mary)
Louisa V Penman 37 Sister in Law, Widow, Gentlewoman, B Brooklyn, New York
Louisa E (transcribed as C) Penman 12 Niece B Shoreditch
Henry Bailey 7 Son
I have not found her in any subsequent census.
Again on LMA I found her marriage to Joseph Charles Penman in 1847.
In 1841 Joseph Penman appears in Middlesex, St Mary Whitechapel with his family as follows:
Joseph Penman 38 Cabinet Maker Y
Catherine 38 Y
Charlotte 10 Y
Joseph 14 Y
Sarah 9 Y
Eliza 7 Y
Catherine 5 Y
Jane 2 Y
I have been unable to find Joseph or any of his family in any other UK census.
There is an Ancestry Tree which shows Louisa, and her Brother John, both with deaths in Auckland New Zealand. Her marriage is not recorded on the tree, but then neither are many of her siblings marriages. This Tree has her death as 24/12/1869 and John’s death as 13/8/1888. I have not been able to find these deaths.
This Tree also has her birth as 25/9/1826 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York USA.
That’s the background – this is where I need help.
Can anyone find her birth in New York?
Can anyone find her on a passenger list coming into the UK between 1826 (her birth) and 1828 (her Baptism in London)?
Any sign of her parents (John Coster & Elizabeth) with her on a passenger list?
Can anyone find her travelling to New Zealand after 1861 when she was last sighted on the census and before 1869 when she supposedly died?
Can you find a death for her in New Zealand?
I have been unable to find a marriage or death for her daughter Louisa Elizabeth Penman, or her Son Joseph John Penman. Both were Baptised on 2/7/1854 but Louisa was born circa 1849/50 and Joseph was born circa 1847/8. Did they go to New Zealand with her?
I have not found a suitable death for her Husband Joseph Charles Penman and have never found them together in a census. Did he go to New Zealand on his own? Did his family (shown above in the 1841 census go to New Zealand or can you find them elsewhere?
Thank you for wading through this. I have attempted to make it easier to follow by using different colours and bold. Any help will be really appreciated as I only have limited access to FMP once a week and just basic Ancestry. It seems I need Worldwide access to view passenger lists etc.
Pat
I have found her Baptism on LMA: Louisa Vaillant Coster 14/11/1828. Born 25/9/1826. Parents John & Elizabeth Coster living in City Terrace and Baptised in St Giles without Cripplegate, City of London. They Baptised another daughter, Harriet at the same time. She was born 4/10/1828.
In the 1841 census she appears with her family in Middlesex, St Leonard, Hoxton Old Town as follows:
John Coster 40 School M N
Elizabeth 35 Y
John 15 Y
Louisa 14 N
Harriet 12 Y
Mary 7 Y
Ann 5 Y
Emma 3 Y
Oliver 4 Mths Y
I have the Baptisms of all the children from LMA.
In 1851 she appears in Middlesex, Shoreditch, Hoxton Old Town as follows:
John Coster 50 Music String Maker B West Dean, Wilts
Helen 7 Scholar B Shoreditch
Louisa Penman 24 Mar Dressmaker B United States
Joseph Penman 3 Grandson B Hoxton, Middx
Eliza Penman 1 Grand dau B Hoxton, Middx
In 1861 she appears in Middlesex, Hackney St John, West Hackney with her Brother in law as follows:
Henry Bailey 27 Widower (he married Mary)
Louisa V Penman 37 Sister in Law, Widow, Gentlewoman, B Brooklyn, New York
Louisa E (transcribed as C) Penman 12 Niece B Shoreditch
Henry Bailey 7 Son
I have not found her in any subsequent census.
Again on LMA I found her marriage to Joseph Charles Penman in 1847.
In 1841 Joseph Penman appears in Middlesex, St Mary Whitechapel with his family as follows:
Joseph Penman 38 Cabinet Maker Y
Catherine 38 Y
Charlotte 10 Y
Joseph 14 Y
Sarah 9 Y
Eliza 7 Y
Catherine 5 Y
Jane 2 Y
I have been unable to find Joseph or any of his family in any other UK census.
There is an Ancestry Tree which shows Louisa, and her Brother John, both with deaths in Auckland New Zealand. Her marriage is not recorded on the tree, but then neither are many of her siblings marriages. This Tree has her death as 24/12/1869 and John’s death as 13/8/1888. I have not been able to find these deaths.
This Tree also has her birth as 25/9/1826 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York USA.
That’s the background – this is where I need help.
Can anyone find her birth in New York?
Can anyone find her on a passenger list coming into the UK between 1826 (her birth) and 1828 (her Baptism in London)?
Any sign of her parents (John Coster & Elizabeth) with her on a passenger list?
Can anyone find her travelling to New Zealand after 1861 when she was last sighted on the census and before 1869 when she supposedly died?
Can you find a death for her in New Zealand?
I have been unable to find a marriage or death for her daughter Louisa Elizabeth Penman, or her Son Joseph John Penman. Both were Baptised on 2/7/1854 but Louisa was born circa 1849/50 and Joseph was born circa 1847/8. Did they go to New Zealand with her?
I have not found a suitable death for her Husband Joseph Charles Penman and have never found them together in a census. Did he go to New Zealand on his own? Did his family (shown above in the 1841 census go to New Zealand or can you find them elsewhere?
Thank you for wading through this. I have attempted to make it easier to follow by using different colours and bold. Any help will be really appreciated as I only have limited access to FMP once a week and just basic Ancestry. It seems I need Worldwide access to view passenger lists etc.
Pat
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