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  • Abel Rhodes lost after 1881

    Abel Rhodes marries Catherine May 17 Jun 1881 Birmingham Register Office and then to my eyes the couple disappear.

    There is an Able and Kate coming back into Liverpool in 1913 but no proof that they are correct pair.

    On the Ellis Island site I find

    First Name: Abel
    Last Name: Rhodes
    Ethnicity: U.S. Citizen
    Last Place of Residence:
    Date of Arrival: Sep 05, 1895
    Age at Arrival: 35y Gender: M Marital Status:
    Ship of Travel: Aurania (1883)
    Port of Departure: Liverpool
    Manifest Line Number: 0127

    but can't see him on the manifest.
    Can anyone else ? or find them in any censuses or BMD records

    T.I.A.
    Mike in Droitwich

    My family tree is on
    http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com

  • #2
    The Abel and Kate in 1913 return to Canada later that year and they were 35 yrs and 32 yrs respectively so not yours unless he's a son?
    No sign of the 1895 departure though.
    Sue

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    • #3
      Do you have year and place of birth for Abel and Catherine?
      Elaine







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      • #4
        Abel RHODES
        (son of James RHODES & Ann TOWNSEND m. 10 Aug 1851 St Nicolas,Kings Norton,WOR)
        born Q4 1859 in,Kings Norton,WOR

        married 17 Jun 1881 in The Register Office,Birmingham,WAR {aged 21} to Catherine May
        census:

        1861 in,Kings Norton Village,Kings Norton,WOR son 1 Kings Norton,WOR {aged 1}
        1871 in,Kings Norton Village,Kings Norton,WOR son 10 scholar Kings Norton,WOR {aged 11}
        1881 in,Kings Norton Village,Kings Norton,WOR brother un 20 mill labourer,Kings Norton,WOR {aged 21}
        Mike in Droitwich

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mike Fisher View Post
          but can't see him on the manifest.
          Can anyone else
          The entry from Ellis Island is also on Ancestry and refers to Abel & Kate Rhodes, both aged 35 - which seems too young to be yours.
          Abel's occupation is watchman - both listed as American citizens.
          I think there must be an error with the Ellis Island manifest image as it doesn't match the Ancestry one!
          Elaine







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          • #6
            I am getting confused here! For some reason I thought your Abel was born 1851 and therefore dismissed the Abel and Kate in the passenger list as being too young.
            If Abel was born in 1859 then the passenger list entries could be what you are looking for.
            Elaine







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            • #7
              The 1901 census for Canada shows:
              Abel Rhodes b 9 Dec 1861, England - Canadian nationality
              Kate Rhodes b4 July 1861, England - Canadian nationality
              James Chamberlain b19 May 1849, England - lodger
              Hing Ah (?) born China - domestic

              Living in Victoria, BC
              Elaine







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              • #8
                A possible death registration although date of birth is very slightly different to the census info.

                Abel Rhodes, born 8 Dec 1860 England
                Date of death - 16 Dec 1928
                Marital Status: Widowed

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                • #9
                  From Ancestry

                  Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
                  contains an entry for Kate Rhodes born c1861 England.
                  Port/date of arrival - Apr 1921, Victoria, British Columbia
                  Ship Name: President

                  Destination -> husband, Able Rhodes
                  Nearest relative in country from whence passenger came - shown as John May, brother.
                  Elaine







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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mike Fisher View Post
                    There is an Able and Kate coming back into Liverpool in 1913 but no proof that they are correct pair.
                    Abel Rhodes born c 1860
                    Kate Rhodes born c 1862
                    Arrival Date: 9 May 1913

                    Age-wise they seem to fit!
                    Elaine







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                    • #11
                      The only Abel R(h)o(a)des I can find near 1860 is born Q4 1859 in Birmingham which is my Abel who disappears ! Does he not know when he was born ?
                      Mike in Droitwich

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                      • #12
                        Possibly not!
                        I am presuming the Abel and Kate Rhodes in Canada are the ones you are looking for as she gives her brother's name as John May on the 1921 arrival.
                        I cannot see a death for Kate. On Abel's death registration in 1928 it states he was a widow.
                        Elaine







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                        • #13
                          Sorry Elaine I missed "Nearest relative in country from whence passenger came - shown as John May, brother." in your reply so will add all the data to their records.

                          Thanks

                          Mike
                          Mike in Droitwich

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                          • #14
                            Is there any page number or anything on the Ancestry Ellis Island passenger lists that might let me find the image on the EllisIsland site ? Or could you give me a full transcript please ?
                            Mike in Droitwich

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                            • #15
                              Will send you a PM.
                              Elaine







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