Census help please

[reuben30]

Is someone able to locate James Hayes, bc 1788 Little Leigh, Cheshire on census for me please? His wife was Ellen, I don't know her birth date.

Thank very much for any assistance.

reuben30

[margaretmarch]

Have you got a date of marriage? Just wondering if they would be together on the 1841.
Margaret

[reuben30]

No sorry, I don't have the marriage. But I have a child baptised 1818 Great Budworth.

[Guest]

there is a James Hayes born abt 1791
Harriett Ellen Hayes 1821
George Bevan Hayes 1826 living in Wybunbury
H0107 118 31/8 10

maybe Ellen had died ?

[reuben30]

Thanks very much. I wasn't sure if this was the right family, having seen the baptisms. Harriet Ellen's parents were James and Harriet Ellen. I have baptisms for children with parents James and Ellen, in Great Budworth and Little Leigh. James was a blacksmith, so I don't know if this helps?

[charity]

Hello. Have you tried looking on familysearch.org website. If you look on there and use the new search facility you will find that they have a lot of info. re Cheshire records. If you type in James Hayes name there is quite a bit of info eg a birth for him on 4 April 1788. They may not all be your James Hayes but worth a look.
I am also researching family who lived in Little Leigh and have found this part of the website very useful.

[reuben30]

Yes, I have, that's where I have found details of the baptism for James and other information. I was hoping either James or Ellen were on census, to help me find out where/when Ellen was born.

Thanks for your replies.

[Darksecretz]

there is this record on Ancestry:

Name: James Hayes
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1788
Christening Date: 13 Apr 1788
Christening Place: Great Budworth, Cheshire, England
Father's Name: John Hayes

[Darksecretz]

there is a James Hayes born abt 1791
Harriett Ellen Hayes 1821
George Bevan Hayes 1826 living in Wybunbury
H0107 118 31/8 10

maybe Ellen had died ?

not sure that this is the one that he is looking for as this Rev'd James Hayes occupation is Curate of Wynbury.

[Darksecretz]

have you got names/dates for the children at all? cant see anything obvious at mo for James,

[reuben30]

Yes, that's the one I found, for a bapt for James. On my record it was Little Leigh.

[reuben30]

John bap1818 Gt Budworth, Hannah 1820 Little Leigh, Thomas bp 1822 Little Leigh, George 1825 Little Leigh, Elizabeth 1827 Little Leigh, Mary 1828 LL, Elizabeth 1830 LL, Ann 1833 LL.

[Darksecretz]

have you tried tracking the children and their marriages to see if James pops up living with them in later times?

[reuben30]

No I haven't, but I am no subscribed to any census at the moment. I will have to do it when I am subscribed - thanks very much for your help.

[Darksecretz]

ahh I see, I have found Thomas in the 1851/1861/1871 with his wife.. but not spotted James yet, he might have already died by the 1841 though,

[Darksecretz]

1881 Census. in Barnton Cheshire,

Thomas Hayes 58 occ Bricklayer born Little Leigh
Ann Hayes 62 born Elton, Cheshire, England

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3520; Folio: 51; Page: 27; GSU roll: 1341843.

You should be able to see this for free on the www.familysearch.org
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1871 coming up.. Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3694; Folio: 48; Page: 26; GSU roll: 842111. (again in Barnton)

Thomas Hayes 48 bricklayer
Ann Hayes 52
James Robinson 11 (SON) b. barnton
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1861... barnton again Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2600; Folio: 38; Page: 8; GSU roll: 542997.

Thomas Hayes 37 bricklayer
Ann Hayes 36 b. Barnton, Cheshire, England (this Ann might have died and he married Ann Robinson) **see ref below**
Mary Hayes 10
John Hayes 7

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death
Name: Ann Hayes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 43
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 149

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1851 Barnton still Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2165; Folio: 170; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87148-87149.

Thomas Hayes 27 Brick setter
Ann Hayes 26
Mary Hayes 6 MO

[Darksecretz]

1841, in Barnton!!

Class: HO107; Piece 92; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Great Budworth; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 4; Page: 2; Line: 22; GSU roll: 241233.

John Hages 20 blacksmith!!
Gero Hayes 14
Mary Hayes 12
Ann Hayes 8

all born in county, no parents showing, so presumably James had died and it was left to John to raise the siblings?

[reuben30]

Thank you very much for all this fantastic information. No Thomas, but you have found him for later census. Hannah and Elizabeth may have died. And yes, a second marriage for Thomas to another Ann, so thank you for this also. It has helped a great deal.

[Darksecretz]

i'm a little bit busy with dinner/children atmo but i'll have another look for you this evening...

[Darksecretz]

1851 in Halton as a General Servant.. Class: HO107; Piece: 2164; Folio: 335; Page: 37; GSU roll: 87146-87147.

Mary Hayes aged 24 b. Barnton, cheshire