JAMES HATCH born about 1863/64
ALL of the JAMES HATCH born between 1862 – 1865 checked and are not him (checked through census and eliminated if they are on 1891 or 1901 as my James is accounted for on those dates)
The census I know for sure my great grandfather is on are:
1891: On census James is shown at 106 Norman Road, Islington. - Labourer
1901: On census James is shown at 116, Hornsey Road, Islington, shows him born in Holloway - Labourer
UNSURE if below is him but probably is as all details fit.
1871 Census, Islington District 64a, Civil Parish St Mary Islington, Municipal Ward – Highbury, Ecc Ward St Barnabas, Parliamentary- Finsbury: 6 Litchfield Terrace (part of Queens Road, now Queensland Road) details:
Residents at 6 Leichfield (Litchfield ) Terrace in 1871
Thomas Myers aged 42 born abt 1829 Head St Neots, Hunts
William Norman aged 10 born abt 1861 Visitor Heaton, Beds
James Hatch aged 7 born abt 1863 Visitor Islington, Middx
Agnes King aged 64 born abt 1807 Nurse/widow Devon, South Molton
George King aged 17 born abt 1854 Emery Grinder Brighton, Sussex
Emma Ling (? King) aged 25 born abt 1846 Daughter Heaton, Beds
George Ling (? King) aged 1 born abt 1871 Grandson Islington, Middx
I have checked the whole of the Census folios for this area for 1871 to see if James’s parents have been transcribed wrongly but there are no traces of any other Hatch’s (James, his father) that match this young James Hatch. Of course, the entry in the 1871 census may not be my James and may just be a coincidence. I have tried to find a link between the other residents but have been unable to find one. Who was he visiting???
1. James married Mary Ann Henderson and witnesses on their wedding certificate include an Ann PRESS. Tracing through I have found an ANN PRESS who was ANN HATCH (until she married). HER father is Thomas Hatch and I can find no evidence of a brother James. Walter Press’s father is a James Press. Could James be a brother or cousin to ANN PRESS?
2. One other option is also available. I know that often in families children are named one thing then use different name so I searched for another HATCH who may fit the bill. I have a JOSEPH JAMES HATCH born 1863, baptised Holloway, (his father is also Joseph James Hatch). Joseph James’s mother is AMELIA (Thorn). My JAMES has a daughter named Charlotte Amelia – co-incidence? On her baptism certificate James’s occupation is shown as a Plasterer’s Labourer. Joseph James SNR is shown as a plasterer. See census details that follow:
1871 Joseph James SNR + Amelia on census but no child(ren) shown with them.
1881: parents living Chelsea, father is a plasterer, father born 1832, mother 1827, she dies 1889, Chelsea
NO trace of any marriage for Joseph James Jnr (b.1863 ) and also no trace of any death.
So, with the two candidates, these are the census & who appears on them:
1871 James YES, Joseph James NO
1881 James No, Joseph James YES
1991 James YES, Joseph James NO
1901 James YES, Joseph James NO
My James dies in 1909. I can find no death for Joseph James b 1863 but there are a few Joseph Hatch deaths who were born earlier or later.
WHAT TO DO NEXT??????
ALL of the JAMES HATCH born between 1862 – 1865 checked and are not him (checked through census and eliminated if they are on 1891 or 1901 as my James is accounted for on those dates)
The census I know for sure my great grandfather is on are:
1891: On census James is shown at 106 Norman Road, Islington. - Labourer
1901: On census James is shown at 116, Hornsey Road, Islington, shows him born in Holloway - Labourer
UNSURE if below is him but probably is as all details fit.
1871 Census, Islington District 64a, Civil Parish St Mary Islington, Municipal Ward – Highbury, Ecc Ward St Barnabas, Parliamentary- Finsbury: 6 Litchfield Terrace (part of Queens Road, now Queensland Road) details:
Residents at 6 Leichfield (Litchfield ) Terrace in 1871
Thomas Myers aged 42 born abt 1829 Head St Neots, Hunts
William Norman aged 10 born abt 1861 Visitor Heaton, Beds
James Hatch aged 7 born abt 1863 Visitor Islington, Middx
Agnes King aged 64 born abt 1807 Nurse/widow Devon, South Molton
George King aged 17 born abt 1854 Emery Grinder Brighton, Sussex
Emma Ling (? King) aged 25 born abt 1846 Daughter Heaton, Beds
George Ling (? King) aged 1 born abt 1871 Grandson Islington, Middx
I have checked the whole of the Census folios for this area for 1871 to see if James’s parents have been transcribed wrongly but there are no traces of any other Hatch’s (James, his father) that match this young James Hatch. Of course, the entry in the 1871 census may not be my James and may just be a coincidence. I have tried to find a link between the other residents but have been unable to find one. Who was he visiting???
1. James married Mary Ann Henderson and witnesses on their wedding certificate include an Ann PRESS. Tracing through I have found an ANN PRESS who was ANN HATCH (until she married). HER father is Thomas Hatch and I can find no evidence of a brother James. Walter Press’s father is a James Press. Could James be a brother or cousin to ANN PRESS?
2. One other option is also available. I know that often in families children are named one thing then use different name so I searched for another HATCH who may fit the bill. I have a JOSEPH JAMES HATCH born 1863, baptised Holloway, (his father is also Joseph James Hatch). Joseph James’s mother is AMELIA (Thorn). My JAMES has a daughter named Charlotte Amelia – co-incidence? On her baptism certificate James’s occupation is shown as a Plasterer’s Labourer. Joseph James SNR is shown as a plasterer. See census details that follow:
1871 Joseph James SNR + Amelia on census but no child(ren) shown with them.
1881: parents living Chelsea, father is a plasterer, father born 1832, mother 1827, she dies 1889, Chelsea
NO trace of any marriage for Joseph James Jnr (b.1863 ) and also no trace of any death.
So, with the two candidates, these are the census & who appears on them:
1871 James YES, Joseph James NO
1881 James No, Joseph James YES
1991 James YES, Joseph James NO
1901 James YES, Joseph James NO
My James dies in 1909. I can find no death for Joseph James b 1863 but there are a few Joseph Hatch deaths who were born earlier or later.
WHAT TO DO NEXT??????
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