Lucknow India

[barbara56]

hello
i am trying to trace my reletives born in Lucknow India with the surname Hay-ellis.
thankyou

[Elaine ..Spain]

Do you have any idea of dates, first names etc. - although please do not post details if the people are still living.

[Elaine ..Spain]

There are some Hay-Ellis entries on FamilySearch which might be of use.

[barbara56]

hi elaine
my grandad geoffery p.hay-ellis dont know his dob and my mother patricia hay-ellis dob 23/09/1937

[Elaine ..Spain]

Can you confirm if they are both deceased, if not I will need to remove their names from the thread.
Were they born in India?
Do you know your mother's maiden name?
When and where did they marry?

[Elaine ..Spain]

There is a death in the England/Wales BMD index:
Geoffrey Pusey Hay-Ellis (born c1907)
Death 1970 3rd quarter
District: Croydon, volume 5a, page 1771

Is that your father?

If so, go to the FamilySearch site (click on the words Familysearch and it will take you directly to the search page) and you will find a baptism record which seems to match.

Geoffrey Persey Hay-Ellis
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Apr 1907
Baptism/Christening Place: Madras, Madras, India
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1907
Father's Name: Charles James Hay-Ellis
Mother's Name: Estelle Irene Donella

I would suggest you work through all the other Hay-Ellis entries on that link to see if you can create family groups.

[keldon]

Here's another one in Madras which may be Charles above.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kS0ZAQAAIAAJ&q=%22hay+ellis%22&dq=%22hay+ellis%22&hl=en&ei=NGhJTdCZFNCwhAfWz7nPDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBg

[barbara56]

hi elaine
thankyou so much that was my grandad, my mother was patricia hay-ellis i am trying to find her mother my grandmother and if she married my grandad, there are so many skeletons in my family cupboard

[barbara56]

thankyou phil
this is all new to me and hard work

[Elaine ..Spain]

Could this be the marriage of your grandparents?
Marriages Mar 1937
Hay-Ellis Geoffrey P
Wanklyn Winifred M
Kensington volume 1a page 252

Where was your mother born?

[keldon]

Here's another for Charles?
"Mr. CJ Hay-Ellis, Superintendent, People's Park, Egmore"
Fourth result down

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&tbo=1&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22hay+ellis%22+madras&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

[barbara56]

gosh your clever yes thats my grandmother does it say where she was born? my mother was born i think in Lucknow india

[Elaine ..Spain]

You would need to get the marriage certificate to get any more detail. The marriage certificate would give you her age, the name of her father and his occupation but would not give her place of birth.

It's possible that your mother's birth certificate might be in the overseas index. I'll have a look.

Sorry to ask again - but can you please confirm that all these people are deceased.

[barbara56]

yes they are. how do i get hold of a marriage certificate please.
thankyou so much for all your help.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Order it from the General Register Office
It will cost £9.25

You will need the following information
Year 1937
Quarter Jan/Feb/March
Name: Hay-Ellis Geoffrey P
District: Kensington
Volume 1a
Page 252


I cannot see a birth registration for your mother in the overseas births - were they a military family?

Re: Winifred M Wanklyn - your grandmother - it's not exactly a common name so this birth registration could well be her:
Births Sep 1916
Wanklyn Winifred M
District: Ross
Volume 6a
Page no. 770
Mother's maiden name: Exton

At some point you are probably going to need a birth certificate for her, and this may well be the right one! I cannot see any other birth registration in England that would fit.

[barbara56]

i believe my grandfather was in the army, when my nana died a few years ago no one knew her real age and they coulndt find a birth certificate, your very good at what you do

[keldon]

Before you start looking at leads, they may have already been covered. There are several family trees on Ancestry.co.uk which feature these people. It may be worth your while going for Ancestry's free trial period and see what's there.

If you do, type ' hayellis ' in the surname search field under the Family Trees tab.

[kylejustin]

i cant even locate patricia's birth in 1937, in the foreign or english indexes. the mother is given above as being born in sept 1937, but the grandparents married mar quarter in 1937 in kensington, london. i searched for hay* with mother's name wank*, and there are 2 matches for haycock, but i cannot find any hay-ellis, hay ellis or hayellis births for before 1962 in england.

searching for births, deaths and marriages, there is only one result for hay-ellis in england, and thats the marriage already mentioned.

[kylejustin]

sorry, only one result on freebmd. there are 7 results on findmypast, all marriages. im assuming your mother was patricia j.i. married in 1955? there is a death for winifred elliott hay b.1903 in 1984, essex? do you know when she died and where? we can heklp you get the death cert?

[scuda]

It's quite likely Patricia was born in India: Geoffrey & Winifred Hay-Ellis sailed from London to Bombay on 25th June 1937. Geoffrey was 30, and a 'Store keeper', Winifred was 21.

scuda