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  • Can anyone find this family after 1861?

    In 1861 Census living at 5 Langley Terrace, Northwood, Newport, West Cowes, Isle of Wight, Hampshire-
    Andrew Barnabus BROWN Head aged 25 occ Master Mariner Born Shalfleet, Hampshire ,his wife Phebe Cooper (nee STEVENS) aged 25 Born Yarmouth, Hampshire.

    They had a daughter Louisa Ellen BROWN bapt 31 May 1863 at Shalfleet,Hampshire.

    I found in 1871 census a Louisa BROWN aged 8 born Southampton;Cowes , with James STEVENS (aged 69 b Westbourne,Sussex) & his wife Ann (aged 66 b Chichester,Sussex). (Phebe was the daughter of this James & Ann.)
    But Louisa is recorded as a niece, not a granddaughter. Could this be a mistake on the part of the enumerator?

    I couldn’t find death for Phebe. Lots of deaths for a Andrew Brown.

    Thanks
    Kerri

    Just found possible 2nd marriage for Pheobe BROWN in 1863 at Southampton.-others on page-Thomas Thurlow NEWTON & Henry HARPER.
    NO- PHEBE didnt remarry either of these. Looked on familysearch site & Henry HARPER married Phebe BROWN-but her father was John BROWN.
    Last edited by Kerri from Aus; 07-01-11, 23:15.

  • #2
    Louisa Ellen shows up on the IoW FH website (http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk) - but the MMN is spelt STEPHENS. The only other BROWN/STEPHENS children are 1947 and 1951.

    There's a 1915 death of a 70-year-old Phebe BROWN at Ryde - but I think that the calculated DoB would be about ten years too late.

    Christine
    Researching: BENNETT (Leics/Birmingham-ish) - incl. Leonard BENNETT in Detroit & Florida ; WARR/WOR, STRATFORD & GARDNER/GARNAR (Oxon); CHRISTMAS, RUSSELL, PAFOOT/PAFFORD (Hants); BIGWOOD, HAYLER/HAILOR (Sussex); LANCASTER (Beds, Berks, Wilts) - plus - COCKS (Spitalfields, Liverpool, Plymouth); RUSE/ROWSE, TREMEER, WADLIN(G)/WADLETON (Devonport, E Cornwall); GOULD (S Devon); CHAPMAN, HALL/HOLE, HORN (N Devon); BARRON, SCANTLEBURY (Mevagissey)...

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    • #3
      Just found possible 2nd marriage for Pheobe BROWN in 1863 at Southampton.-others on page-Thomas Thurlow NEWTON & Henry HARPER.
      That one's on the IGI - batch M 137611 - 10 AUG 1863 Saint James, Southampton
      father = John BROWN
      spouse = Henry HARPER
      husband age = 29
      wife age = 28

      Christine
      Researching: BENNETT (Leics/Birmingham-ish) - incl. Leonard BENNETT in Detroit & Florida ; WARR/WOR, STRATFORD & GARDNER/GARNAR (Oxon); CHRISTMAS, RUSSELL, PAFOOT/PAFFORD (Hants); BIGWOOD, HAYLER/HAILOR (Sussex); LANCASTER (Beds, Berks, Wilts) - plus - COCKS (Spitalfields, Liverpool, Plymouth); RUSE/ROWSE, TREMEER, WADLIN(G)/WADLETON (Devonport, E Cornwall); GOULD (S Devon); CHAPMAN, HALL/HOLE, HORN (N Devon); BARRON, SCANTLEBURY (Mevagissey)...

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      • #4
        I see that the IGI entry for the baptism of Phoebe STEVENS, 5 Feb 1835, Yarmouth Hants (i.e. IoW), is a submitted entry. Have you been able to see a copy of the source document for yourself?submitted entries are usually less reliable than extractions (which also need checking, as I have experienced for myself!).

        Christine
        Researching: BENNETT (Leics/Birmingham-ish) - incl. Leonard BENNETT in Detroit & Florida ; WARR/WOR, STRATFORD & GARDNER/GARNAR (Oxon); CHRISTMAS, RUSSELL, PAFOOT/PAFFORD (Hants); BIGWOOD, HAYLER/HAILOR (Sussex); LANCASTER (Beds, Berks, Wilts) - plus - COCKS (Spitalfields, Liverpool, Plymouth); RUSE/ROWSE, TREMEER, WADLIN(G)/WADLETON (Devonport, E Cornwall); GOULD (S Devon); CHAPMAN, HALL/HOLE, HORN (N Devon); BARRON, SCANTLEBURY (Mevagissey)...

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        • #5
          The IGI marriage (batch M060052) for Andrew Barnabas BROWN and Phoebe Cooper STEVENS is 6 May 1859 at Shalfleet. It also shows up on the IoW site, at St Michael, Shalfleet (once you know what you're looking for)!

          Christine
          Researching: BENNETT (Leics/Birmingham-ish) - incl. Leonard BENNETT in Detroit & Florida ; WARR/WOR, STRATFORD & GARDNER/GARNAR (Oxon); CHRISTMAS, RUSSELL, PAFOOT/PAFFORD (Hants); BIGWOOD, HAYLER/HAILOR (Sussex); LANCASTER (Beds, Berks, Wilts) - plus - COCKS (Spitalfields, Liverpool, Plymouth); RUSE/ROWSE, TREMEER, WADLIN(G)/WADLETON (Devonport, E Cornwall); GOULD (S Devon); CHAPMAN, HALL/HOLE, HORN (N Devon); BARRON, SCANTLEBURY (Mevagissey)...

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          • #6
            Hope its ok to cut & paste like this here-

            Name: Phoebe Stevens
            Gender: Female
            Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Feb 1835
            Baptism/Christening Place: Yarmouth, Hampshire, England
            Birth Date:
            Birthplace:
            Death Date:
            Name Note:
            Race:
            Father's Name: James Stevens
            Father's Birthplace:
            Father's Age:
            Mother's Name: Ann
            Mother's Birthplace:
            Mother's Age:
            Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02215-9
            System Origin: England-EASy
            Source Film Number: 1470893
            Reference Number: item 33 p 51


            Groom's Name: Andrew Barnabas Brown
            Groom's Birth Date: 1835
            Groom's Birthplace:
            Groom's Age: 24
            Bride's Name: Phoebe Cooper Stevens
            Bride's Birth Date: 1835
            Bride's Birthplace:
            Bride's Age: 24
            Marriage Date: 06 May 1859
            Marriage Place: Shalfleet, Hampshire, England
            Groom's Father's Name: William Brown
            Groom's Mother's Name:
            Bride's Father's Name: James Stevens
            Bride's Mother's Name:
            Groom's Race:
            Groom's Marital Status:
            Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
            Bride's Race:
            Bride's Marital Status:
            Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
            Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06005-2
            System Origin: England-EASy
            Source Film Number: 1470891
            Reference Number: Shal/Reg/Mar/3


            Name: Louisa Ellen Brown
            Gender: Female
            Baptism/Christening Date: 31 May 1863
            Baptism/Christening Place: Shalfleet, Hampshire, England
            Birth Date:
            Birthplace:
            Death Date:
            Name Note:
            Race:
            Father's Name: Andrew Barnabas Brown
            Father's Birthplace:
            Father's Age:
            Mother's Name: Phoebe Cooper
            Mother's Birthplace:
            Mother's Age:
            Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08295-5
            System Origin: England-EASy
            Source Film Number: 1596478
            Reference Number: rn 1079

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            • #7
              But Louisa is recorded as a niece, not a granddaughter. Could this be a mistake on the part of the enumerator?
              I'd be inclined to think it's probably an enumerator error, until I found other evidence to the contrary - but I'd make quite sure that I did note how Louisa was described in that record.

              Christine
              Researching: BENNETT (Leics/Birmingham-ish) - incl. Leonard BENNETT in Detroit & Florida ; WARR/WOR, STRATFORD & GARDNER/GARNAR (Oxon); CHRISTMAS, RUSSELL, PAFOOT/PAFFORD (Hants); BIGWOOD, HAYLER/HAILOR (Sussex); LANCASTER (Beds, Berks, Wilts) - plus - COCKS (Spitalfields, Liverpool, Plymouth); RUSE/ROWSE, TREMEER, WADLIN(G)/WADLETON (Devonport, E Cornwall); GOULD (S Devon); CHAPMAN, HALL/HOLE, HORN (N Devon); BARRON, SCANTLEBURY (Mevagissey)...

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