Why was he in prison?

[Guest]

Henry William Kew born abt 1877 probably in Notting Hill have found one as a Convict in 1901 in H.M. Prison Rochester Kent
Can anybody tell me what he was in for ? have looked but cannot find him thanks .

[Inahaystack]

Have looked through the usual sources - no luck. Perhaps if you get in touch with Kent Family History Soc. they may be able to help.

http://www.kfhs.org.uk/index.htm

Best of luck.

[Guest]

Thanks IAHS for that and for looking .

[Christine in Herts]

Yes I had a look in likely sources, but couldn't find anything at all.

Christine

[Guest]

thanks Christine ,Florence Gray married a 26 year old Henry William Kew in 1903 in Kensington but cannot find them or either one in 1911 ? and cannot find him in 1901 ? unless thats him ?

[Little Nell]

The relevant archives should have the prison register which would give information. Some archives have indexed them. Additonaly The National Archives at Kew has quarterly returns from prisons giving basic information about prisoners.

[Guest]

thanks Nell I suppose that will cost a fortune ???? will take a look

[Inahaystack]

Henry William Kew born abt 1877 probably in Notting Hill have found one as a Convict in 1901 in H.M. Prison Rochester Kent
Can anybody tell me what he was in for ? have looked but cannot find him thanks .

Now thats strange, there is a Henry William Kew b.1877 London , on the prison list of Canterbury Prison 1901.

http://www.blacksheepancestors.com/uk/canterbury.shtml

...... and in 1891 I think you found a Henry in Feltham Industrial School - that 'school' was a Reformatory School, now called a Borstal.

[JudithM]

Now thats strange, there is a Henry William Kew b.1877 London , on the prison list of Canterbury Prison 1901.

http://www.blacksheepancestors.com/uk/canterbury.shtml

Both refer to the same prison I think as the Blacksheep site gives this for the source of info:
Trancriber: Tracy Day
Source: Names of prisoners in Canterbury Prison extracted from 1901 census Rochester (St Margaret) Township, Kent County England

[Inahaystack]

Thanks Judith, must remember to check more carefully


Nina

[Guest]

Thanks Nina how on earth did I miss that ??? I looked on that site maybe I put too much info in the search box ????
Judith thanks to you too, that means he was in for at least 10 years ??? wonder what he did ?

[Inahaystack]

If both Henrys are one and the same, it looks like he was a bit of a rogue and maybe that is why he joined the army - oh for a service record to find out when he joined up and his address at that time. There is a four year gap between the known children - I wonder if it was because he was away again ?
According to his Medal Roll Card his home address in abt.1915 was 12 Colvin Street and it was Mrs H Kew that acknowledged the 14-15 star I did a 1901 & 1911 street search for him or his wife (also as Gray), but no sign of them at that address.

Too many maybe's at the moment.

Nina

[Christine in Herts]

Thanks Nina how on earth did I miss that ??? I looked on that site maybe I put too much info in the search box ????
Judith thanks to you too, that means he was in for at least 10 years ??? wonder what he did ?

Was in in for 10+ years,? or was he a bit of a recidivist, and kept going back in, and happened to be there on both occasions?

Christine

[Night Owl]

One thing that's puzzling me - on the 1901 Rochester entry it says he is married. On the 1903 marriage he was a bachelor. So either he was telling fibs on the census/prison record or the marriage cert - or its the wrong man. I'm inclined to go for the telling fibs theory, but who to?

[Christine in Herts]

Just to keep the picture clear...
There's an 1897 marriage for Henry William KEW to a Constance Fanny BAGGS in Kingsclere district, but the couple are together in 1901. (That HWK was b 1874-5 at Tadley, Hants)

It seems to be the only HWK marriage before 1901, according to FreeBMD.

Normally, I'd have guessed that the marriage cert was the inaccurate one!

Christine

[Velma Dinkley]

Has anyone looked in The Times Online Digital Archive/ Gale newspapers?

[Guest]

thanks everybody sorry wasnt around had to take Auntie out , I'm getting totally confused have found this now ??? could it be the same man ???

Found in The Boer War Records
H W Kew
Casualty Type Wounded
Casualty Date 15 Mar 1901
Casualty Place Quaggaskirk
Rank Trooper
Force South Africa Field Force
Regiment Colonel Defence Force
Battalion Winterberg Mounted Rifles