Marriage help

[fardon]

Hi all,can anyone help me to find a marriage ?
John Nunn born 1811,Ipswich,Suffolk (St Helens)
and Eliza ?also born in the same place.I am trying to find her maiden name.I know Eliza ? was born 1811 on 1851 census of John and Eliza with their children.They are both 30 years old on the 1851 census and John is a bootcloser.I think she dies, as later John is a widower with his children.Any help here would be welcome,thankyou.

[Elaine ..Spain]

You really need the birth certificate of one of the children to be sure.

On the 1851 census Eliza is shown as being born Billingford, Norfolk - as are the two children Charles & George.
Billingford comes under the Depwade registration district.

This is a possible marriage
Marriages Sep 1847
Gooch Eliza
NUNN John
Depwade 13 53

[Jen~Ealogy]

Elaine's right you do need a birth cert to be sure but I found the following, as to whether they are your family, I'm not sure.............

Marriage Free bmd........

John Nunn & Eliza Allen

1839 Ipswich. Dec quarter Vol 12 Page 699.

Also found the following children.........

Eliza Anne Nunn Bapt. 27/12/1850 St Peters Ipswich
Father John Mother Eliza
Batch C13198-2 Film 952444

Harry Nunn Bapt. 19/3/1852
Same parents
Same batch and film numbers

Then there is also this one, which I'm not sure about..........

Ambrose Nunn 1848
St Mary The Key Ipswich Father John Mother Eliza

Batch C13193-2 Film 919666
Reference -2:1Z6MCCF

[Elaine ..Spain]

There are two trees on Ancestry for this family - both show that John Nunn marred Eliza Gooch (doesn't mean it's right though!)

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/18987661/person/745784262?ssrc=

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/10114709/person/-694789632?ssrc=

If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry, try viewing the trees on the Mundia website

[Elaine ..Spain]

John Nunn & Eliza Allen

1839 Ipswich. Dec quarter Vol 12 Page 699.

I think that is too early Jen, as Eliza wasn't born until c 1828, according to the 1851 census.
I was also looking at Norfolk, rather than Suffolk, as that is where Eliza was born and where they were living in 1851.

[Jen~Ealogy]

Yes I realised that after I'd posted Elaine....haven't got a sub for ancestry at the moment, so could only view free bmd...no census.

[Elaine ..Spain]

From the IGI - parents John Nunn & Eliza Gooch

1. ELIZA NUNN
Christening: 13 DEC 1868 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
2. JOSHUA NUNN
Christening: 23 JUN 1861 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
3. JONATHAN NUNN
Christening: 15 NOV 1863 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
4. MARY ANN NUNN
Christening: 26 JUN 1859 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
5. EMMA NUNN
Christening: 11 NOV 1855 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
6. AGNES NUNN
Christening: 12 JUL 1857 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
7. GEORGE NUNN
Christening: 30 JUL 1848 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
8. MARGARET NUNN
Christening: 18 APR 1852 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk
9. CHARLES NUNN
Christening: 08 DEC 1850 Billingford Near Diss, Norfolk

[Elaine ..Spain]

Those names seem to fit with the 1871 census - can't find them in 1861 at the moment.

[fardon]

Thankyou for looking for me and yes I agree ,I do need to order a birth certificate for one of Johns children to be certain.I am abit confused as John and Eliza had a daughter named Eliza e Nunn born 1836 on the 1861 census,she was the only child born in London.The other children were born in Ipswich.Eliza ? the mother must have been born earlier and not 1828.

[Elaine ..Spain]

I must be looking at a different family then Fardon. Can you give the reference for the 1861 cenus.

[fardon]

I think I have this right,page 25,folio 207,piece 1165.Its 1861 census ,the mother Eliza is not here now and John is a widower.Thankyou.

[Elaine ..Spain]

I was definitely following the wrong family so ignore all my previous posts! Will have another look.

[Elaine ..Spain]

They are both 30 years old on the 1851 census and John is a bootcloser.

Do you mean the 1851 census?

Have found the following family on the 1841 census
John Nunn 30
Eliza Nunn 30
Benjamin Nunn 11
Eliza Nunn 6
John Nunn 6 MO

Is this the right family?

[fardon]

Hi Elaine,yes I have the 1841 census and yes this is the right family.There are so many John Nunns and Eliza seems common too ,it is difficult.It says on this census (1841)that Eliza was born 1811,age 30 yrs ,the same age as John Nunn.Thanks.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Not having much luck in coming up with any suggestions. I think a birth certificate of one of the children is really the way to go.

[fardon]

Please dont worry ,thankyou very much for looking ,I am going to order a certificate shortly.Sue.

[scuda]

Eliza E from the 1861 census is Eliza Emma, and her baptism is on Ancestry, 29th June 1837 at St Leonard Shoreditch, parents John & Eliza of Daggets Court, John was a boot closer. She was born 12 May 1835 (I think she married John Thomas Best Q4 1861 Ipswich). There is a marriage at St Leonard Shoreditch (on Ancestry) of John Nunn & Eliza Hudson on 27 July 1834 (bachelor and spinster, both of OTP). The witnesses were Geo Yarrow and Jemima France.

scuda

[scuda]

Do you have the family in 1851? I can't find them.

scuda

[scuda]

Ancestry also has the baptism of William Frederick Nunn at St Leonard Shoreditch on 24 September 1837, age 5 weeks 5 days, parents' info as for Eliza Emma.

scuda

[scuda]

OK, found them in 1851, the surname has been transcribed as Mann on both Ancestry and fmp. They're in Bond Street Ipswich as in 1861: HO107 piece 1800 folio 638 page 20. John is already widowed.

scuda