Where did he go?

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Florence Ellen PARKS born 1872 St Saviours Southwark

marries in 1897 Southwark to

John ORAM (found Birth Reg John Arthur Oram born 1871 Lambeth) aged 25 a Stoker Father James Deceased Labourer

She is by herself in 1901 living in 1 Portlock Place Bermondsey
with two children

Violet Elizabeth born 1899 Chatham in Kent
Florence Gertrude born 1900 in Bermondsey

Says married living apart from Husband ??? which has been crossed through.

in 1911 she is a Widow Chambermaid at Police Station

Daughter Florence Gertrude marries in 1921 in Greenwich Kent
says Father Police Officer deceased

can only find John in 1881 with his parents aged 10

can anyone find him in 1891 before marriage or 1901 after
Thanks

[Elaine ..Spain]

Can you give the reference or a link to the 1881 census please Val.

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http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&h=20684629&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t6737403_p1062610714_kpidz0q3d1062610714z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid

thanks Elaine its been mistranscribed as Cram

RG11 598 13 20

[Chrissie Smiff]

Do you think perhaps his death was just registered under John? There is this one - John Oram born about 1871 - died Oct-Dec 1903 aged 32 - Whitechapel London Middlesex 1c 210

[Chrissie Smiff]

The mother doesn't fit but how about this one in 1891 Val? It looks like the one for the death I found.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=6598&iid=LNDRG12_279_281-0156&fn=John+A&ln=Oram&st=r&ssrc=&pid=11752162

[Guest]

thanks Chrissie there is a John Abraham Oram born the same time in St George in The East ??? so that could be him too
I thought as it said Stoker on his marriage he may have been aboard a ship ???

[Guest]

thats the other John ,Chrissie thanks ,its very confusing

[Guest]

my ones Parents are James Walter and Amelia

[Elaine ..Spain]

I thought as it said Stoker on his marriage he may have been aboard a ship ???

Was thinking the same thing Val, maybe Navy.
Have had a quick look on the National Archives site to see if anything jumps out .. but it doesn't! :(

[Guest]

thanks for trying Elaine , it seems odd that he is a Police Officer deceased on his Daughters marriage ? so he must have changed careers , but when ?

[Chrissie Smiff]

That death I found isn't the John Abraham one Val - he died September 1891 in Whitechapel.
You're right about the 1891 one though, I forgot that John Abraham was still alive.

[Guest]

I wonder if thats him then ???

[Guest]

it seems odd his Wife is working at a Police Station when her Daughter said he was a Police Officer ???? wonder if thats where he was stationed?

[Chrissie Smiff]

Ignore that death Val - I have just been searching 1891 and 1901 and it could be any of several John Oram's - sorry :o

[Guest]

thanks for trying Chrissie