1861 help please?

[Kerri from Aus]

Can anyone find Nimrod BATES in 1861 census b c 1835 in Wingate,Kent. In 1851 living at Orsett,Essex with parents James & Sarah,siblings Isaac,William & Hester. Dont know if this is my lot but trying to eliminate/confirm.
Thanks
Kerri
Anyone see the family in 1841?

[Elaine ..Spain]

1841 census they seem to have the name Baker

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=isaac&gsln=&sx=&f1=Kent&f2=&f3=&f18=&rg_81004011__date=1839&rs_81004011__date=1&_82004011=&_82004013=&f7=&f20=&f8=&f9=&gskw=&prox=1&db=uki1841&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=UKICEN&fh=4&h=3214168&recoff=1

HO107; Piece 491; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Strood; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 9A; Folio: 44; Page: 29; Line: 20

[Elaine ..Spain]

Have had a look for Nimrod in 1861 but cannot see him.

[Sue from Southend]

Nimrod married Sophia Tracey in 1861, Dec qtr, Maldon, Essex vol 4a, p276. In 1861 census Sophia is with her parents in a seafaring community in Burnham (think Thames Barges!) In 1871 and later census Nimrod is a Fireman and I'm wondering if he was at sea for the 1861.

[Christine in Herts]

I had a look at the Seax images. The marriage in Dec-Q of 1861 didn't take place at St Mary's. There was only one: 2 Nov 1861 of Samuel PRICE and Ann RIMES - bachelor and spinster of the parish. Witnesses WIlliam and Emma RUFFELL (and I think that is double-f not double-s). (image 62 of 65; ref D/P 132/1/7)

Christine

[Christine in Herts]

Sadly there aren't any images yet for: Marriage register - All Saints and St. Peter, MALDON, 1837-1878 (http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/Default.asp)

If they were in Strood in 1841, are there any parish register entries for the family in the Medway City Ark images? (http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/)

Christine

[Sue from Southend]

I found the marriage by Googling Nimrod Bates and this popped up -

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boydsindex/Boydsindexb.htm

You have to scroll down a bit and the marriage was at Burnham (reg district Maldon)

[Kerri from Aus]

Thanks everyone for your help. I think Im on bit of a wild goose chase,just using information in old letters. Im looking for a James BATES (could be BETTS) who was born around 1800 in Teston area in Kent. In 1834 he was married with 7 children. (his siblings were married in Aylesford). But James & his family were not living in Teston. He died on what looks to be 2nd June 1857. So I went looking for a James born c 1800 in Kent-but none found in 1851 as born Teston.

So then I started looking for possible James's & seeing if they were still alive in 1861 to eliminate them.

I think that this is marriage for Nimrod ( dont know if this is my family-still trying to gather information)
Name: Nimrod Bates
Age: 69
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Spouse Name: Emma Hart
Spouse Age: 57
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Jul 1906
Parish: St Faith, Wandsworth
County: London
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Bates
Spouse Father Name: Robert English Hart

Cheers
Kerri

[Sue from Southend]

That marriage is on LMA records - Nimrod (widowed) is a Retired Member of the Fire Brigade and his father James was a Mill Wright.
Witnesses were John and Emma Denney.

[WendyP]

the very latest census Nimrod is shown as being a retired Fireman formerley a Seaman in the royal navy

[WendyP]

I see in the 1841 there is a Nimrod Baker born same year as the Nimrod Bates shown above he is listed in the household of a

John Baker bn 1793 Occ Millwright
Sarah Baker bn 1811
Nimrod Baker bn 1837
Isaac Baker bn 1839

They are living at Strood Hill P B, Strood, Rochester, Aylesford,

I wonder if this a mistranscription

[Christine in Herts]

I found the marriage by Googling Nimrod Bates and this popped up -

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boydsindex/Boydsindexb.htm

You have to scroll down a bit and the marriage was at Burnham (reg district Maldon)

No images yet for
Marriage register ~ BURNHAM-on-Crouch, St Mary the Virgin, 1837-1894

Christine

[Kerri from Aus]

I found these on free bmd

Births Mar 1839
Bates Isaac Baker North Aylesford 5 367

Births Dec 1843
BATES Hester N. Aylesford 5 394

Then found this death
Deaths Sep 1854
BATES James N Aylesford 2a 217

I wondered if this could be my James. So will get this cert & see what info is on it.
Thanks for your ideas.
Kerri

[WendyP]

In line of Nimrod's occupation as a Fireman there was a mention in the British Library newspapers abt him suffering with a burned face and a leg injury in an explosion at Chelsea in October of 1871.