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    I've just found the following info on a website and would like to find out a bit more about her ...

    Eliza Scrimshire born c1807 Lutterworth, Leics / died 1862 Lambeth
    Father: William
    Husband: Henry James Coard
    I've ascertained that Eliza was Henry's 2nd wife and they married 1845 Liverpool

    I've looked on FamilySearch but can't pinpoint her birth/christening, so hoping that she was living with her parents in 1841.

    Any info found appreciated.
    Thanks
    Last edited by LeicestershireLass; 01-08-10, 20:33.
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    hi. she isn't living with parents.

    elizth scrimshire, age 35, b.1806, laundress, not born in county.
    anne ", age 7, b.1834, leicestershire.
    george wright, age 20, b.1821, polier?, born leicestershire.

    hill st. st margaret, leicester.
    RG number: HO107, Piece: 604, Book/Folio: 11/15, Page: 23

    if you'd like the image pm me your addy

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    • #3
      Hi - thanks for 1841 info

      Eliza married Henry James Coard in 1845 Liverpool ... is Eliza's daughter Anne living with them in 1851?

      Just noticed that she was not born in Leics according to 1841 census ... where does 1851 indicate she was born?
      Last edited by LeicestershireLass; 01-08-10, 08:32.
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      • #4
        Perhaps Scrimshire (which seems ripe for mistranscribing!) was the name of a first husband?
        ~ with love from Little Nell~
        Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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        • #5
          IGI has this possible baptism for Ann, presumably Eliza's daughter:

          ANNE SCRIMSHIRE

          Parents: John Scrimshire & Elizabeth

          Source Information:Batch No.: C036991
          ~ with love from Little Nell~
          Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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          • #6
            Just found this on FamilySearch

            ANNE SCRIMSHIRE - International Genealogical Index
            Christening: 28 DEC 1834 Husbands Bosworth, Leicester, England
            Parents: John Scrimshire and Elizabeth
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            • #7
              Where was John Scrimshire in 1841?
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              • #8
                There's a John Scrimshire marriage to an Elizabeth Andrews in Misterton, Leic 1st Jul 1833, batch M015332
                ~ with love from Little Nell~
                Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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                • #9
                  Found this in my Scrimshire notes;

                  John Scrimshire
                  Abode: Leicester
                  Buried: 12/8/1838 Husbands Bosworth
                  Aged: 27

                  so, your theory may be correct and 1851 census may provide a bit more info
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                  • #10
                    sent you the image leicestershire lass, im not if it will go through.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kylejustin View Post
                      sent you the image leicestershire lass, im not if it will go through.
                      Thanks

                      Would someone please take a look at 1851 census and let me know what info it contains .... pls see post 1
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                      • #12
                        Presume you mean the 1851 for Eliza Coard (formerly Scrimshire) - if so possibly this one - as per the Ancestry transcription!

                        Household
                        Edward Brown 27
                        Ellen Brown 20
                        Ann Brown 2
                        John Bayton 38
                        Richd Baylin 18
                        Bridget Baylin 60
                        Henry James Coard 43 - born Southareas, Surrey (poor image - could be Surrey Southwark) - lodger
                        Eliza Coard 29 - born Lutterworth Surrey (image says Leics. Lutterworth - very faint image and cannot read age but it could be 39 although it does look more like 29) - lodger
                        Emma Martha Coard 2 - born Manchester Lancashire

                        HO107; Piece: 2320; Folio: 560; Page: 16
                        Elaine







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                        • #13
                          The 1861 census is still showing Eliza as being born c1822 Lutterworth

                          Household
                          Henry Jane Coard 55
                          Eliza Coard 39
                          Emma Coard 11
                          Fredric Coard 9
                          Alfred Coard 7
                          William Coard 4

                          Are you sure that it is the same Eliza - if she was born c1807 then she would have been age 50 by the time she had William.
                          Elaine







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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kylejustin View Post

                            elizth scrimshire, age 35, b.1806, laundress, not born in county.
                            anne ", age 7, b.1834, leicestershire.

                            hill st. st margaret, leicester.
                            RG number: HO107, Piece: 604, Book/Folio: 11/15, Page: 23

                            Thanks Elaine .... Eliza's year of birth seems to have changed a bit !

                            Wonder where her daughter Ann is in 1851?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post

                              Are you sure that it is the same Eliza - if she was born c1807 then she would have been age 50 by the time she had William.
                              Not sure ... if it's the same Eliza

                              At first I thought Scrimshire was her maiden name, but based on what's gone before in this thread it could be she was the widow of John Scrimshire and remarried Henry James Coard
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                              • #16
                                There is another Elizabeth Scrimshire - from the 1841census - mistranscribed on Ancestry as Swinshire

                                Thomas Swinshore 50
                                Elizabeth Swinshore 55
                                Elizabeth Swinshore 20
                                John Pulford 1

                                - living in Husbands Bosworth

                                Her year of birth fits in with the one who married Henry Coard.
                                Elaine







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                                • #17
                                  Tryng to find Ann in 1851 - I wonder if this is worth following up:

                                  1851 census
                                  William Brooks c 1787 Leicestershire, England Head
                                  Elizabeth Brooks c 1801 Ackworth, Northamptonshire Wife
                                  Ann Scrimshire c1834 Quorndon, Leicestershire - Daughter
                                  Elizabeth Sharp abt 1834 Leicestershire, England Servant Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire


                                  Marriages Sep 1845 (freeBMD)
                                  ARNOLD Thomas
                                  Barris Thomas
                                  BROOKS William
                                  Fitzold Lucy
                                  HADDON Sophia
                                  MANSFIELD Mary
                                  PARKER Henry
                                  PITYOLD Lucy
                                  Pitzold Lucy
                                  SEUMSHIRE Elizabeth
                                  Seurnshire Elizabeth

                                  Leicester vol 15 page128
                                  Elaine







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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post

                                    1851 census
                                    William Brooks c 1787 Leicestershire, England Head
                                    Elizabeth Brooks c 1801 Ackworth, Northamptonshire Wife
                                    Ann Scrimshire c1834 Quorndon, Leicestershire - Daughter
                                    Elizabeth Sharp abt 1834 Leicestershire, England Servant Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
                                    1861 census - Elizabeth Brooks (?previously Scrimshire) is still giving her place of birth as Achurch, Northamptonshire - so probably not the right one.
                                    Elaine







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                                    • #19
                                      Hi Elaine .. thanks for persisting with this ... you'd think with a name like Scrimshire it would be easy to track them down ....!!

                                      Problem seems to be ... there were quite a few of them with the same names, born in the same area, around the same time as each other

                                      I also found Elizth m Wm Brooks

                                      Will have to pop Eliza in the bottom draw for a while and then take another look at her when a bit more time ... maybe even send off for marriage cert to check if she was married to John Scrimshire or not

                                      Thanks everyone for their help trying to solve yet another Scrimshire mystery
                                      Don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today ~ follow your dream!

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                                      • #20
                                        Checked my marriage disc and here's the entry

                                        Misterton 01-Jul 1833 B Elizabeth Andrews OTP Spin John Scrimshire Leicester, St. Margaret Bach
                                        Elaine

                                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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