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Hi, this is quite complex - please stay with me.....
Yesterday I spent about three hours trying to get my head around some of my hubby's ancestors. With the help of Dade Parish records it should have been relatively easy. However......
The problem I had was trying establish who the parents of numerous Uttley's were. I should add all these Uttley's came from the Parish of Wentworth, Rotherham. My quest was further complicated by the fact that there were numerous births with the father John. I think John born c1710 was responsible for a lot of these children. He married twice and if I am correct did not die until 1773. His second wife (Mary) was born 1724 so could have been having children well into her 40's 1764 and beyond. John's first son named John married Ann in 1761 and started having children straight away.
With the help of Dade registers I managed to work out who some of the mothers were, but there are some which could belong to either father or son.
Does any one know how the Parish records were recorded? My reason for asking is for the latter children of John and Ann their son Joseph born 1784 is recorded as being the 7th son. Assuming that all the male children born after 1761 belonged to John and Ann then there is one too many. One of course could belong to John and Mary but another possibility is that one son, Matthew, who was born but not christened is the additional son. The only reason I know of his existence is because his death and burial is recorded - he died as an infant.
I am wondering if the person recording the baptisms looked through the previous entries for the family and just counted the number of sons. If this was the case then, with the absence of Matthew, Joseph would be the 7th son
I have a similar problem with daughters. Ann born 1762 is definitely the first born daughter of John and Ann (she married Jonas Uttley and her children are recorded with reference to her being the daughter of John and Ann) and I have another daughter Sharelotte born 1778 who is recorded as the third daughter. Her sister Martha born the previous year is recorded as being the daughter of John and Ann. So in theory all daughters up to this point should be accounted for. But.... There is Sarah who seems to have two baptisms in 1765 one in June one in November. Both have the father as John (jun) Is this the same person or a mistake in recording? To complicate things further there is a burial for Sarah in the Oct of 1765 again belonging to John (jun). On first reading I assumed that John Junior would be John born 1738 but this does not add up as Martha born 1777 and Sharelotte born 1778 are definitely daughters two and three. Is Sarah the daughter(s) of John senior (born 1710)
I hope my rambling make some sense - any ideas will be appreciated.
Sandra
Yesterday I spent about three hours trying to get my head around some of my hubby's ancestors. With the help of Dade Parish records it should have been relatively easy. However......
The problem I had was trying establish who the parents of numerous Uttley's were. I should add all these Uttley's came from the Parish of Wentworth, Rotherham. My quest was further complicated by the fact that there were numerous births with the father John. I think John born c1710 was responsible for a lot of these children. He married twice and if I am correct did not die until 1773. His second wife (Mary) was born 1724 so could have been having children well into her 40's 1764 and beyond. John's first son named John married Ann in 1761 and started having children straight away.
With the help of Dade registers I managed to work out who some of the mothers were, but there are some which could belong to either father or son.
Does any one know how the Parish records were recorded? My reason for asking is for the latter children of John and Ann their son Joseph born 1784 is recorded as being the 7th son. Assuming that all the male children born after 1761 belonged to John and Ann then there is one too many. One of course could belong to John and Mary but another possibility is that one son, Matthew, who was born but not christened is the additional son. The only reason I know of his existence is because his death and burial is recorded - he died as an infant.
I am wondering if the person recording the baptisms looked through the previous entries for the family and just counted the number of sons. If this was the case then, with the absence of Matthew, Joseph would be the 7th son
I have a similar problem with daughters. Ann born 1762 is definitely the first born daughter of John and Ann (she married Jonas Uttley and her children are recorded with reference to her being the daughter of John and Ann) and I have another daughter Sharelotte born 1778 who is recorded as the third daughter. Her sister Martha born the previous year is recorded as being the daughter of John and Ann. So in theory all daughters up to this point should be accounted for. But.... There is Sarah who seems to have two baptisms in 1765 one in June one in November. Both have the father as John (jun) Is this the same person or a mistake in recording? To complicate things further there is a burial for Sarah in the Oct of 1765 again belonging to John (jun). On first reading I assumed that John Junior would be John born 1738 but this does not add up as Martha born 1777 and Sharelotte born 1778 are definitely daughters two and three. Is Sarah the daughter(s) of John senior (born 1710)
I hope my rambling make some sense - any ideas will be appreciated.
Sandra
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