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LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 20:39
1891 .. Wm Scrimshire c1872 Leic
1901 .. Wm married to Annie Maria (his occupation in 1911 was 'scourer') and living Leic

Thanks

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 20:47
1891
William Scrimshire born 1872 Leicster.

Living in Cambridge Barrack Woowich Dockyard.
Private 1st Bat. North.d. Fusiliers (d is superscript - presume Northumberland)

RG12; Piece: 531; Folio 134; Page 29

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 20:51
1901
Thomas Bates c 1863 Whitwick, Leicestershire - Head of household
Mary Ann Bates c1857 Wellington, Shropshire
William Scrimshire c1872 Leicestershire Son-in-law - occ Lance Corp. North.d Fusiliers
Annie M Scrimshire c 1873 Leicestershire daughter

address 11 Dannett (?) Street Leicester
RG13; Piece: 3009; Folio: 104; Page: 8.

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 20:52
Thanks Christine .. I've just found Wm's death in 1925 aged 53, so now wondering when Annie Maria died or if she remarried?

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 20:57
1901
Thomas Bates c 1863 Whitwick, Leicestershire - Head of household
Mary Ann Bates c1857 Wellington, Shropshire
William Scrimshire c1872 Leicestershire Son-in-law - occ Lance Corp. North.d Fusiliers
Annie M Scrimshire c 1873 Leicestershire daughter

address 11 Dannett (?) Street Leicester
RG13; Piece: 3009; Folio: 104; Page: 8.

Thanks for joining the search Elaine ... now it's starting to make sense ... in 1911 Thomas Bates is a widower living with Wm, Annie and son Thos, but the transcript doesn't state his relationship to them ...

Now need to find Annie and Wm's marriage - which I thought I had ... although the Annie Maria I found has the surname Wood, but I suppose she may have been Annie M Bates who married ? Wood, then Wm Scrimshire ???

address is probably Dannet St

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 20:57
There is a death for Annie M Scrimshire in 1953 1st quarter, age at death 80
Leicester vol 3a, page 674

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:00
This does seem to be the most likely - which is the one you found.

Marriages Jun 1898
Scrimshire William
Wood Annie Maria
Leicester 7a 513

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:03
1891
Household
Thomas Bater 28
Mary A Bater 34
Annie M Bater 17
Sarah A Bater 12
William Ward 26

.. am working back to see if I can find a Wood connection

William Ward listed as boarder - wonder if this should be Wood?

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:08
1891
Household
Thomas Bater 28
Mary A Bater 34
Annie M Bater 17
Sarah A Bater 12
William Ward 26

.. am working back to see if I can find a Wood connection

William Ward listed as boarder - wonder if this should be Wood?

Thanks for persevering with this Elaine

What's Annie's relationship to Thos? .. something doesn't add up Thos = 28 and Annie = 17 ???

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:11
Thomas and Mary are married.
Just looking at the image and Annie and Sarah don´t have the surname of Bater/Bates but I can´t work out what it is. Looks more like Pratt?
Perhaps someone else could check.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1891&indiv=try&h=23928492

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:13
Just found this marriage which might be relevant.

Marriages Jun 1889 (freeBMD)
BALE John Edward
BATES Thomas
HOUNSTEIN Susannah
Pratt Mary Ann

Leicester 7a 514

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:15
by coincidence I just found this:

Marriages Jun 1889

BATES Thomas Leicester 7a 514
Pratt Mary Ann

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:27
Found this 1881 census - not sure it's the same family - Mary born Warwickshire, not Leic.

Mary Ann Pratt c 1855 Thurlaston, Warwickshire - head - widow
Sarah Ann Pratt c 1879 Leicestershire - daughter
Hannah Prattwood c 1873 Leicestershire - daughter

The image shows Hannah as Hannah Pratt Wood - is this Annie??? Maybe she was illegimitate and Mary Ann's maiden name was Wood.

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:31
um! getting really confused now .. 2 possibles ??

Births Mar 1873
Wood Annie Maria Leicester 7a 173

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Births Sep 1873
WOOD Annie Maria Leicester 7a 247

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:33
Is this her?

Marriages Dec 1875
PRATT Joseph Leicester 7a 556
WOOD Mary Ann Leicester 7a 556

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:35
Marriages Dec 1875
PRATT Joseph
WOOD Mary Ann
Leicester 7a 556

and a possible death
Deaths Mar 1879
Pratt Joseph age 31
Leicester 7a 183

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:35
looks like your theory is correct Elaine ... Annie Marie Wood is dau of Mary Ann Wood who married Joseph Pratt then she married Thomas Bates

phew ... thank goodness that mystery solved ... big pat on the back for all concerned

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:37
um! getting really confused now .. 2 possibles ??

Births Mar 1873
Wood Annie Maria Leicester 7a 173

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Births Sep 1873
WOOD Annie Maria Leicester 7a 247 [/COLOR]

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe :D

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:38
are you ready for another challenge?

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 21:42
Yes - although if it's a long one I might have to say goodnight!!!

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 21:49
I think Arthur Scrimshire (1874) m Sarah Ann Booth (1880 Desford) Leic Q1 1900 [1901 census RG13 Pce 2991 Folio 174 Pg 19]
by 1911 Arthur is a widower ... but I've not found Sarah's death - can you?

also there are 3 children living with Arthur, his brother Walter and widowed mother in 1911; [RG14PN19317 RG78PN1152B RD407 SD3 ED53 SM254]
Annie b 1904
Nellie b1905
Katie b 1907

Who is their father? Arthur or Walter?

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 22:03
I think I may have solved part 2;

Nellie married ? Carter Q2 1923 Leic

Carter children include;

Births Jun 1926
Carter Walter E H Scrimshire Leicester

Elaine ..Spain
27-06-10, 22:09
Not having much luck I am afraid. Can't see a death for Sarah and there's really nothing that helps identify the father of the three children.

LeicestershireLass
27-06-10, 22:17
thanks very much for your help Christine and Elaine ... a few more loose ends tied up

Val wish Id never started
27-06-10, 22:36
probably right off track as the age is quite a bit out but there is a Sarah A Scrimshire death in London City
abt 1862-1910
aged 48
Dec
1C
4

Val wish Id never started
27-06-10, 22:43
there is also a marriage for a Sarah a Scrimshire
in Shardlow Derbyshire
Mar 1915
7B
748 to a Edgar A Tarling
maybe she didnt die??

Val wish Id never started
27-06-10, 22:55
there are some deaths on BMD between 1901 and 1911 for a Sarah A or Sarah Ann Grimshaw ??? maybe its mistranscribed cant really help as I'm not too good on areas.

LeicestershireLass
29-06-10, 12:41
there are some deaths on BMD between 1901 and 1911 for a Sarah A or Sarah Ann Grimshaw ??? maybe its mistranscribed cant really help as I'm not too good on areas.

Thanks Val ... I'll do a search with alt spelling and see what appears

update: not having much luck with FreeBMD .. it seems to be on a go slow

BOBBY GEORGE
12-11-12, 16:13
Hello,

I'm fairly new to this site & have only just discovered your post. But if you are still interested in finding out about Arthur Scrimshire & Sarah Ann Booth then I think I can help. Please let me know if you still want information on them.

Val wish Id never started
13-11-12, 01:16
Bobby if you click on her name you can send her a pm as she has not posted for a little while so may not see this

BOBBY GEORGE
13-11-12, 21:31
Thank you Val, have done as you suggested. It's an interesting story.

LeicestershireLass
17-11-12, 17:18
Thanks very much for your pm Bobby and the info you've provided me with.

Thanks too to Val for initiating pm.

Val wish Id never started
17-11-12, 22:23
hope its good news Lass ;)

LeicestershireLass
18-11-12, 10:32
very interesting Val ...