Cant find Charles Pickwick ?

[john_harvey]

Hi all, I am having trouble trying to find Charles Pickwick.
(his daughter Agnes Born abt 1885/86)
I have his daughter marrying Cyril Nichols in 1905

Name: Agnes Pickwick Year of Registration:1905 Quarter of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar District:West Ham County:Essex Volume:4a Page:305

On the marriage cert her father is listed as Charles Pickwick (deceased) a builder.
Kind regards......John
PS I beleive she had a sister (Catherine)

[Guest]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7572&iid=BRKRG11_1305_1308-0857&fn=Charles&ln=Pickwick&st=r&ssrc=&pid=346023

I wonder if this is him ??? I'm sure it says navvy which could be a builder ?????

[Guest]

although he is a gas stoker in 1891 ???? but has a wife and Daughter Catrine ???? no sign of Agnes on there though ?

[john_harvey]

thanks val, could be him ? john

[john_harvey]

Just rembered that I am sure I saw an Agnes Pickwick the other day in 1901 listed in a workhouse ? aged 5/6 !

[Guest]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=6598&iid=ESSRG12_1327_1329-0027&fn=Agnes&ln=Perks&st=r&ssrc=&pid=18650717

this is interesting a Charles Perks ???? Bricklayer with a Daughter Agnes born right time right place ???????????????????

[Guest]

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...481&recoff=1+2
thought this might be her in 1901 ???????????

[john_harvey]

thanks val i think youve got it :-)

[Guest]

hope so good luck

[marymog]

Pickwick is not a very common name,

my guess

Marriages Mar 1883**
Mason *Catherine * *Lambeth *1d 461
PICKWICK *Charles * *Lambeth *1d 461

Births Dec 1883**
PICKWICK *Charles *Lambeth *1d 415

Births Jun 1885**
Pickwick *Agnes *Lambeth *1d 438


Births Sep 1887**
PICKWICK *Oliver *Lambeth *1d 425
Deaths Dec 1892**
Pickwick *Oliver *5 *Lambeth *1d 209

Births Dec 1888**
PICKWICK *Frank *Lambeth *1d 444
Deaths Sep 1889**
Pickwick *Frank *0 *Lambeth *1d 250

Births Dec 1890**
Pickwick *Catherine *Lambeth *1d 376





1891 living in Lambeth (no Agnes, maybe she was just simply missed out) Lambeth and Battersea are bordering each other, where they were living in 1891 was a stones throw away from Battersea.

Charles Pickwick c. 1857 Bath, Somerset,
Catrine Pickwick c. 1866 Lambeth,
Charles Pickwick c. 1884 Lambeth,
Oliver Pickwick c. 1886 Lambeth,
Catrine Pickwick c. 1890 Lambeth,




Name: Catherine Pickwick
Death Registration Month/Year: 1938
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Essex South Western (west ham)
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 192

Charles Pickwick abt 1860 death 1897 St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex




was there an address on the wedding cert?

mm

[john_harvey]

Thanks very much Mary,
Address for cyril and Agnes on marraige cert, 14 Tidal Basin Canning Town.

Kind regards John

[WendyP]

HI

I can't follow any Ancestry links as I dont subsribe to them so if this is a double posting I apologise.

This would be Agnes Pickwick in the 1901 census already working/residing at 14, Tidal Basin Road, West Ham here's the Ref's for others that dont have Ancestry

RG number: 13
Piece: 1579
Folio: 43
Page: 23

William Edward Ward bn circa 1854 Seaman born Lynn Norfolk is the head of the household.

[marymog]

Oh well that didnt help John, who were the witnesses??

mm

[Darksecretz]

there is an Ancestry Tree with her on it:

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/18068143/person/606188097

[marymog]

Had a look to see if Agnes was with the grandparents in 1891, but she wasnt, Granny was alone,

Groom's Name: Charles Pickwick
Bride's Name: Catherine Mason
Marriage Date: 03 Feb 1883
Marriage Place: Kennington, Surrey,
Groom's Father's Name: Francis Pickwick
Bride's Father's Name: Oliver Mason
Source Film Number: 375304
Reference Number: Page 76 Image 85
Collection: Marriages, 1538–1973

living in 1871 Battersea, Surrey

Oliver Mason abt 1835 Ireland (Mason)
Bridgel Mason abt 1835 Ireland
Charles Mason abt 1858 St Pancras, Middlesex,
Alice Mason abt 1864 St Pancras, Middlesex,
Catherine Mason abt 1866 St Pancras, Middlesex,
Oliver Mason abt 1868 St Pancras, Middlesex,
Agnes Mason abt 1870 Clapham, Surrey,
(Baby Agnes died in 1871)

1881 Lambeth, London

Alex John Sinsfield abt 1834 Bow Common, Middlesex, (Stoker gas works)
Bridget Sinsfield abt 1844 Kerry, Ireland
Catherine Mason* abt 1866 Edmonton, Middlesex,
Oliver Mason abt 1868 Bromley, Middlesex,

1891
Bridget Sinfield abt 1843 W Kerry, Ireland (living alone) Lambeth, London



mm

[Darksecretz]

oh well done!! MM

looks like you are right on track with the births you found earlier, she named her son after her father too.. :D

[marymog]

Hi julie,

trying to find Agnes in 1891, not with any of the aunties or uncles on the Mason side. Agneses mum has moved in with someone after Charles died, matter of workhouse or find a new breadwinner. found a possible but of course no proof... 1901 Piece: 1582; Folio: 109; Page: 3. under the name Mahoney, this is all guesswork though.

Maybe Catherines marriage cert will help with an address

Name: Catherine Pickwick - Charles Henry Tingey
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 346

in 1909 so could help pin the mother down for the 1911 census, Catherine the sister is living with Agnes in 1911, or failing that the mothers death cert, bit of luck Agnes could have been the informant.

mm

[john_harvey]

Thanks everyone

John

[john_harvey]

there is an Ancestry Tree with her on it:

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/180...rson/606188097

That's my tree Julie

John

[john_harvey]

Hi Mary, Were did you find that marriage entry ?
Kind regards......John
Groom's Name: Charles Pickwick
Bride's Name: Catherine Mason
Marriage Date: 03 Feb 1883
Marriage Place: Kennington, Surrey,
Groom's Father's Name: Francis Pickwick
Bride's Father's Name: Oliver Mason
Source Film Number: 375304
Reference Number: Page 76 Image 85
Collection: Marriages, 1538–1973