Nottingham puzzle

[ozgirl]

Robert Boyd Mills is born in Nottingham March quarter 1855. In Jun Q 1873 he presumably marries, I think to Annie Smith. In 1874 Sep Q another Robert Boyd Mills is born in Nottingham. In 1896 there is a further marriage for Robert Boyd Mills in Nottingham.

Can anyone find any trace of any of these Roberts in a census? There is a possible one in 1881, Robert married to Anna but they don't have a son Robert.

Thanks

Linda

[Chrissie Smiff]

Have you seen the two deaths LInda?
One appears to be the senior Robert - Sept 1938 Mills Robert B aged 83 Nottingham 7b 223 and one looks as though another son was born and died shortly after - Dec 1908 aged 1 Robert Boyd Mills Nottingham 7b 193.

[ozgirl]

Thanks Chrissie, I had noted the death of the baby, but hadn't yet tracked down either of the adult Roberts. I may have found Robert jr in 1911 - there is a Robert Mills with wife Ellen and son Ernest aged 18 or 10 and daughter Ethel aged 8 in Nottingham at 114 Kirkwhite Street. Also they have had one baby die which could be Robert Boyd. The length of time of the marriage matches too. Also according to BMD Robert Boyd married Heleanor Elizabeth Twigg, which could be Ellen.

Now if only I could find any of them in 1901!

Linda

P.S. as an aside what was the age for starting school in the 1870's -was it 4 or 5?

[Chrissie Smiff]

You're right Linda, it is a puzzle. I have been looking but non of the possibles seems to quite fit. Do you have his birth or marriage cert or anything? If you could find him before marriage it would help to know where he was born. The nearest one in age is born in Sutton Bonnington to William an ag lab.

p.s. No idea about 1870's but I know my father started school when he was 4 and that would be about 1912.

[ozgirl]

This is all part of a bigger puzzle, part of which i asked about before. On my tree I have a Robert Johnson born ca 1855. However, there is a possibility he may be the son of a previous marriage, and therefore his name may be Robert Mills. I can find Robert Johnson on the 1861 and 1971 census, but that is all. I cannot find a corresponding birth entry for Robert Johnson. So i was wondering, if maybe when he left home he reverted to his real name as against his stepdads name. I was hoping to try and find Robert Mills on the census to see if the professions matched - at age 16 R Johnson was a smith. This whole family is very confusing as Dad, Thomas Johnson married twice, wife 1 had two babies before marriage, so theywere registered under her surname, and wife 2 had been married twice before, and had at least 2 children before.

I think I will get Robert Boyd Sr. birth certificate - that will tell me if I have the right mother.

Thanks for trying.

Linda

[bridlady]

Hi i know this enquiry was some time ago, but did you solve the puzzle? i have researched this name so would be keen to exchange any information with you, not sure what to do as i am new to the site! thanks jane

[ozgirl]

Hi Jane, and welcome to the site. Presumably the name you are referring to is Robert Boyd Mills. After a lot more research I managed to track down my Robert, and found that he was not connected to any of the Robert Boyd Mills, so did not go any further with them. It was definitely a very complicated set up, with my lot seemingly flitting all over Nottinghamshire to have babies. If however, you are researching any of the other names, I would love to exchange info with you.

Thanks

[Elaine]

I can help pinpoint the marriages in case anyone can access the parish registers for you

1873 06 02 to Annie Smith Sneinton St Lukes

1893 10 03 to Heleanor Elizabeth Twigg Nottingham St Saviour

[Elaine]

Found a couple of baptisms

DOB 1880 12 24 Bap 1882 03 23 John Thomas Father Robert Boyd Mills Mother Hannah
Sneinton St Phillips Lived at 10 Eldon Square Occupation Labourer

1897 07 21 Robert Frederick Father Robert Boyd Mills Mother Eleanor Elizabeth Nottingham St John Lived at 6 Traffic Street Occupation Iron Moulder

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Robert Frederick Mills
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1897
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
7b/155

[Elaine]

Have you seen this

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),
Name: Robert Boyd Mills
Probate Date: 26 Sep 1938
Death Date: 8 Sep 1938
Death Place: Nottingham, England
Registry: Nottingham

MILLS Robert Boyd of 29 Beauvale-road Nottingham died 8 Septemberat Valebrook Lodge Nottingham Probate Nottingham 26 September to Albert Rowing Parker iron turner Effects £139 2s

There's also a medal card for a Robert Boyd Mills 1/7th Notts & Derby Reg No 1366
Enlisted 28/3/11
Discharged 7/4/11
Age 41 9mths

Just can't find any military records, his birth

Name: MILLS, Robert Boyd
Registration district: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Year of registration: 1874
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
7B/271

[Elaine]

1901 Census and matching the 'later' census

RG13 piece 3171 folio 129 page 8
114, Kirkewhite Street, Nottingham
MILLS, Robt G Head Married M 26 1875 Iron Moulder
Nottingham
MILLS, Eleanor E Wife Married F 25 1876
Belper Derbyshire
MILLS, Ernest W Son Single M 0 (5W) 1901
Nottingham

[Elaine]

Just thought I would add in case any of the info is useful