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  • The winner of WDWTYA 26th November 2009 is

    Peter Stenning


    Well done Peter i hope you get some brick walls knocked down.
    Jen

  • #2
    Congratrulations Peter go get some walls down dear ;;
    borobabs passed away March 2018

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    • #3
      OK here goes with a couple that have stumped me and i have posted one of these before, but you never know

      Looking for imfomation on Walter James Sharman B1884 Tendring Essex, Married to Blanche Rossetter[rosetter/rossiter]B1882 Lancing Sussex married on Nov 3rd 1909 at Aldrington Sussex.
      info on the marriage cert is ;-
      Blanche Rossetter 25 spinster address 10 Kendal Rd father John Rossetter gardener.

      Walter James Sharman 24 bachelor Sailor 128 Wordsworth Street father Henry Sharman (dec'd) Sailor.

      Having trouble finding Walter or his family . word from my mum says that Walter was a cox on the Shoreham lifeboat , but i have been unable to substansiate that.

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      • #4
        do you have his birth cert Peter?

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        edit added birth details:

        Walter James Sharman
        1884 (jan/feb/mar)
        Tendring/Essex
        Volume:4a
        Page: 465
        Last edited by Darksecretz; 27-11-09, 14:03. Reason: adding birth info
        Julie
        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

        .......I find dead people

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        • #5
          No only the marraige cert , i cant find his birth i only have him on the 1901 census at Ancestry which states birthplace as Brightlingsea Essex 1885 APPROX.
          Sadly being out of work i cant afford to spend on many certs at present.

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          • #6
            I've found him with his wife on the 1911 census
            Walter James Sharman yob 1884, at Brighlingsea Essex. He is living at 15 church road, Portslade-by-sea Sussex. Married for one year to Blance born 1885 in Lancing which all ties in with the information you gave. Because of this I've found him on the 1901 census but he is on his own as boarder. So back to look for his family now email me and I will send you the census.
            GWEN

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            • #7
              Do you have access to Ancestry?

              There is a entry in the 1891 census recorded as Walter Coppin born 1884 in Brightlingsea.
              If you check the image it should actually be for a Walter Sharman - Coppin is the family listed above!

              RG12; Piece: 1405; Folio 11; Page 16
              - Ancestry.co.uk

              Let me know if you need a transcription.


              ... and the same family in 1881
              - Ancestry.co.uk
              RG11; Piece: 1786; Folio: 10; Page: 14;
              Elaine







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              • #8
                and in 1871

                - Ancestry.co.uk
                RG10; Piece: 1689; Folio: 125; Page: 15;

                I'm working back here trying to find the name of the father, but mother Louise seems to be on her own in each of the censuses! :F

                1871 census - Louise's occupation - Mariner's wife.
                Elaine







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                • #9
                  I've found Blanche on the 1891 census with her family also the 1901 but she is working as a servant so away from home
                  1891 Class: RG12; Piece: 823; Folio 140; Page 25
                  1901 Class: RG13; Piece: 959; Folio: 98; Page: 44
                  I dont know how to enable cookies so you can see it sorry may be someone can tell me.
                  GWEN

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                  • #10
                    ... and a possible marriage for Louisa to Henry

                    Marriages Dec 1867
                    CANTALL Matilda Victoria
                    MASKELL George
                    ROSE Louisa
                    SHERMAN Henry

                    Lexden 4a 618

                    The date of 1867 fits in well with the children listed on the 1871 census, and the registration district for Brightlingsea at that time was Lexden.
                    (In 1880 the registration district changed to Tendring)

                    Edit: This fits well with one of the children's names on the 1871 census - Albert Rose ..
                    Elaine







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                    • #11
                      Birth details

                      Blanche Rossetter
                      Year of Registration: 1884
                      Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
                      District: Steyning
                      County: Sussex
                      Volume: 2b
                      Page: 290
                      GWEN

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                      • #12
                        Elaine: I salute you with your detection.

                        If the census details are correct. There is a freeBMD reference for a

                        Henry Sherman (see 1881 census) and a Louisa Rose marriage Mar 1967, Lexden Essex. I wonder if this is a possible match

                        When I was searching for Walter in census, I did come across some Sharman's from Fingringhoe, Essex. Having relations from there myself I know that this comes under Lexdon district.


                        PS Elaine beat me to it.
                        Last edited by bubblebelle; 27-11-09, 14:04. Reason: addition
                        Bubblebelle x

                        FAMILY INTERESTS: Pitts of Sherborne Gloucs. Deaney (Bucks). Pye of Kent. Randolph of Lydd, Kent. Youell of Norfolk and Suffolk. Howe of Lampton. Carden of Bucks.

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                        • #13
                          Blanche parents names are john and elizabeth and this is a possible marriage
                          Name: John Rossitter
                          Year of Registration: 1880
                          Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
                          District: East Preston
                          County: Sussex
                          Volume: 2b
                          Page: 676
                          other on the page Elizabeth Leggatt

                          I do hope you want information on both families?
                          GWEN

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                          • #14
                            Found John on the 1861 censu with his parents who are called Samuel & Ellen
                            1861 Class: RG9; Piece: 614; Folio: 171; Page: 18
                            Samuel Rossetter 35
                            Ellen Rossetter 28
                            Samuel Rossetter 5
                            John Rossetter 3
                            Blanche Rossetter 1
                            GWEN

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                            • #15
                              Have done a transcription for you Peter:

                              1871 census

                              Louisa Shurman c1843 - occ mariner's wife
                              Albert Rose c 1869
                              Elizabeth Shurman age 2 months
                              Lilly Shurman age 2 months

                              all born Brightlingsea, Essex.
                              address Hearst Green, Brightingsea.
                              RG10; Piece: 1689; Folio: 125; Page: 15


                              1881 census

                              Louisa Sherman c1840 - occ. mariner's wife
                              Lily Sherman c1871
                              Henry Sherman c1873
                              Clarence Sherman c 1876
                              Edward Sherman c 1879

                              all born Brightlingsea, Essex
                              address Hearst Green Brightlingsea
                              RG11; Piece: 1786; Folio: 10; Page: 14

                              1891 census

                              Louise Sharman c 1842 - listed as married
                              Henry Sharman c 1874 - occ. Fisherman
                              Clarence Sharman c 1876
                              Edward Sharman c 1878
                              Cernler Sharman c1881
                              Walter Sharman c1884

                              all born Brightlingsea, Essex
                              Address Hurst Green, Brightlingsea
                              RG12; Piece: 1405; Folio 11; Page 16

                              NOTE: In the 1891 census the whole family has been mistranscribed on Ancestry as COPPIN

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                              This could be Louisa's death in 1900

                              Deaths Jun 1900
                              Sharman Louisa age 60
                              Tendring 4a 362
                              Elaine







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                              • #16
                                possible death for John

                                Name: John Rossetter
                                Year of Registration: 1853
                                Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
                                District: Chichester
                                County: Sussex, West Sussex
                                Volume: 2b
                                Page: 215
                                GWEN

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                                • #17
                                  Yes sorry i have all the Rossetter side of the marriage allready and i do have access to ancestry. As Florence Mary is my gran.

                                  I can see the mistranscription has caught me out there i have done all variations of Sharman not looking for Sherman lol .

                                  I can see how its easy to miss that vital bit of information.



                                  Peter

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                                  • #18
                                    1881 Ellen is on her own a widow
                                    Class: RG11; Piece: 1101; Folio: 43; Page: 1
                                    Ellen Rossetter 49
                                    Samuel Rossetter 25
                                    William Rossetter 17
                                    Thomas Dann 28 lodger


                                    Ellen in 1891
                                    Class: RG12; Piece: 824; Folio 92; Page 13
                                    Ellen Rossetter 59
                                    Samuel Rossetter 35
                                    William Rossetter 27
                                    Thomas Dann 27 lodger
                                    Alfred E Bolt 21 lodger

                                    possible death for Ellen

                                    Ellen Rossetter
                                    Estimated birth year: abt 1832
                                    Year of Registration: 1898
                                    Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
                                    Age at Death: 66
                                    District: Steyning
                                    County: Sussex
                                    Volume: 2b
                                    Page: 219


                                    possible death for Samuel
                                    Samuel Rossiter
                                    Estimated birth year: abt 1825
                                    Year of Registration: 1873
                                    Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
                                    Age at Death: 48
                                    District: Steyning
                                    County: Sussex
                                    Volume: 2b
                                    Page: 173
                                    GWEN

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                                    • #19
                                      Ellen Rossetter s maiden name was Ellen Knight father William Knight .


                                      Peter

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                                      • #20
                                        Thank you for all the help with Sharman/Sherman/Shurman and it has given me a lot more to search about .
                                        Also the Marraige to Louisa Rose was a great find .

                                        I bow to you all and thank you for the assistance you have given me .


                                        Peter

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