SOLOMON FAMILY [re. HART] PART 2

[Hawk]

Solomon Family as they connect to the HART Family.
I mentioned the first couple............

Henry and Rachel.
One of their sons was ...........
Coleman b.1830 [no further info]
Married.1842 Sarah Levy, 16 Jun. 1850 Sarah Simmons.
Sarah was died 13/4/921 ,
Buried 22/4/1921

Hannah b.1851 Aldgate, Middlesex, Eng.
Who did she marry, when did she die, what family.
Hannah is listed in the 1871 British Census as a Feather Maker.
Hannah was an inmate in the German Jewish Hospital, Mile End, Old Town, Stepney. [RG9/294/63/29.]

Matilda b.1854 [needs no introduction]
Marries Benjamin HART Great Synagogue London 1875.

Julia b.1861
Tailoress according to Brit. Cen.
Married. Louis Hart 1887.

Simeon b.1862 Aldgate, Middlesex, Eng.
What family?

Joseph b.1863 Aldgate, Middlesex, Eng.
Hardware Assistant. [Census]
What family?

Alice b.1865.
Feather Dresser [census]
What family?

Rachel b.1867 Aldgate, Middlesex, Eng.
Feather Dresser. [census]
What family?

Katie b.1875 Aldgate, Middlesex, Eng.
Who was here spouse?

Well there you are I've give you the list I have for the Solomons as they relate to the HARTs.
If you can help with my questions that would be great. On the other hand if my material assists you then I would be pleased.

Hawk.
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[John-Nihon]

Hi Hawk, I've moved your (this) thread to the Research Qs & As forum board as the Research Requests forum board is just for requests where you would like someone to visit an actual location for you.

[naomiatt]

Just looking one by one -
I've found this Alice - could it be her?
Births Sep 1864
SOLOMON Alice E London 1c 7
I can't see an Alice for 1865 birth...Did she have an inital that you know of?
Otherwise;
Births Mar 1869 Solomon Alice Elizabeth Kensington 1a 119
Solomon Alice Ettie Mile End 1c 526

and for Simeon
Births Jun 1864
SOLOMON Simeon St James 1a 369
Births Jun 1868
SOLOMON Simeon John E.London 1c 4

Looking at Julia's;
Births Dec 1858
Solomon Julia E. London 1c 10
Births Jun 1862
SOLOMON Julia Whitechapel 1c 387
Births Mar 1863
SOLOMON Julia Whitechapel 1c 364

Looking at Katie;
Births Dec 1873
Solomon Katie Louise Hackney 1b 531b
Solomon Katie Louise Hackney 1b 534b

This could be Rachel -
Births Sep 1867
Solomon Rachel Whitechapel 1c 343

Births Mar 1862
SOLOMON Joseph Whitechapel 1c 352
Joseph?


Matilda?
Births Mar 1853
Solomon Matilda S. Luke 1b 551

The birth years you have are generally not matching up - I know years are often out...
where did you get your info from?

You might find Henry and Sarah, wife no 2, in here

http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/1851/An_1851_Study1.asp

[Hawk]

Those figures come from British census of 1871. I also checked my figures I don't have any initials.
Ray

[naomiatt]

Have you found them in the 1861 census...at least with Matilda...

[Hawk]

Noami
The only Matilda mention, in a census, as a maiden, is the one I gave before where she may have been a servant cook.
I did think I had one census page with Benjamin and Matilda along with at least 3 children. It would be 1881, they married 1875 and left for Australia in 1883.
R.

[naomiatt]

Hi - if you can find the 1881 info, that would be good. Would give an idea who was with them at the time and narrow down searches for bm and d's...

[Hawk]

Solomon Family [Matilda]

Hi - if you can find the 1881 info, that would be good. Would give an idea who was with them at the time and narrow down searches for bm and d's...

N.
Ok done a little research on Ancestry as far as it will allow without being a member and the following came up, frankly more that I expected.

British Census 1881.
Benjamin Hart / D.o.b. c1852. / Head./ Sex. Male./ Place of birth. Paddington, Lnd. England./ Occupation. Fishmonger.
Matilda,/ Wife./1854/ 25yrs.

Census taken.
67 Goldney St. Kensington/ St. Mary's, Paddington.
Household.
[Besides parents] Marion [Pauline] 5yr, Charles Henry 3yr, Joseph A.[1yr].]
Sarah would be born in the next year because she is on the ships passengers list. Then Gershon my g/father is born in Sydney. Matilda may have been pregnant whilst sailing.

I can't make the sums work with the figures given for Matilda's D.O.B. Not that it's hyper important when it comes to the whole of the family. It's got to be human error some how.
In 1932 she died aged 78 =1854. In 1875 she was married age 20 = 1855.
On top of that the 1881 age 25yrs figures give us 1856.

Very best, Hawk.

[naomiatt]

Hi Ray - that's not bad going for Matilda's birth year! ; -)
Can you find info for any of the other Solomon family in 1881 - allowing for others who might have married already like Matilda.