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    Trying to find a birth of:


    sarah elizabeth o'shea

    she married in 1906 at age 24 to lawrence henry andrews in llanelly
    her father was called edward o'shea and worked in a copper works

    although i cant be sure, she may or may not have been born in ireland, as i know this family has roots in ireland although im not sure how far back

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    Someone with access to the 1911 census should be able to help. Lawrence and 'Elizabeth' are living together in Llanelly but I dont have access to more info.
    Hail Spode!

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    • #3
      thanks
      it would be great to know where she was born so i can find her birth certificate for a relative

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      • #4
        says she is 29 and born in Carmarthen Carmarthenshire son Frederick 2 born in Llanelly Carmarthenshire
        living at 5 Sandygate Terrace Llanelly Cam
        Husband a Loader or Charge wheeler also born in Llanelly

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        • #5
          by the way she is calling herself Elizabeth

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          • #6
            thank you

            just checked that info on freebmd and couldnt find a match?

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            • #7
              Might be worth checking out these:

              1901 census
              RG13; Piece: 5088; Folio: 45; Page: 38.
              - Ancestry.co.uk

              There is a child recorded as Lizzie - and I know the occupation for Edward doesn't match and the age for Lizzie is a bit out - but when you trace the family back to 1891 she is recorded as Sarah Elizabeth.

              1891 census
              RG12; Piece: 4495; Folio 35; Page 12
              - Ancestry.co.uk
              Elaine







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              • #8
                .. and if you trace the same family forward to 1911 you will find Edward and Mary O'Shea with grandson Willie Andrews, age 4 staying with them.
                Elaine







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                • #9
                  I can't find her on FreeBMD either, but in the 1901 Welsh census there's a Lizzie O'shea aged 22 living in Llanelly with parents Edward and Mary and sister Winifred .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post
                    Might be worth checking out these:

                    1901 census
                    RG13; Piece: 5088; Folio: 45; Page: 38.
                    - Ancestry.co.uk

                    There is a child recorded as Lizzie - and I know the occupation for Edward doesn't match and the age for Lizzie is a bit out - but when you trace the family back to 1891 she is recorded as Sarah Elizabeth.

                    1891 census
                    RG12; Piece: 4495; Folio 35; Page 12
                    - Ancestry.co.uk
                    i canceled my ancestry sub as i wasnt planning on doing any research this month, so i cannot view atm, does it say she was born in carmarthen?

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                    • #11
                      Both 1891 and 1901 - born c 1879 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire, Wales
                      Elaine







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                      • #12
                        Do you want a transcription of the 1891 and 1901 census?
                        Elaine







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                        • #13
                          yea that would be great

                          seached with a birth in Llangadock with parents edward and mary and cant find a match for a birth :(

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post
                            Both 1891 and 1901 - born c 1879 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire, Wales

                            My niece lives in the area, and I've never heard of Llangadock. I think it should be Llangadog.

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                            • #15
                              Where are you searching for the birth.
                              Have you checked freeBMD-but it's not possible to search using parent's name.
                              Elaine







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                              • #16
                                I wonder if Sarah Elizabeth was illegitimate, and registered under her mother's maiden name? Can't find a marriage for her parents, though.

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                                • #17
                                  1901 census
                                  Edward O'Shea c 1859 Hereford, Herefordshire – occ grocer and shopkeeper
                                  Mary O'Shea c 1859 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire
                                  Lizzie O'Shea c1879 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire
                                  Winnifred O'Shea c1889 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire

                                  Address 103 Lower Ann Street, Llanelly


                                  1891 census
                                  Edward O Shea c 1859 Hereford, Herefordshire - occupation Groom (I think – image blurred)
                                  Mary O Shea c 1859 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire
                                  Sarah Elizabeth O Shea c1879 Llangadock, Carmarthenshire
                                  Mary Winifride O Shea c1889 Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire
                                  Thomas Sullivan c1876 Pembroke, Pembrokeshire,

                                  Address 6 King Square Llanelly
                                  Elaine







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                                  • #18
                                    Her sister's birth's correctly registered:

                                    Births Mar 1889
                                    O'Shea Mary Winifred Carmarthen 11a 891

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Mary from Italy View Post
                                      I wonder if Sarah Elizabeth was illegitimate, and registered under her mother's maiden name? Can't find a marriage for her parents, though.
                                      Was thinking the same Mary, as I cannot see the family in the 1881 census.
                                      Elaine







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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Mary from Italy View Post
                                        I wonder if Sarah Elizabeth was illegitimate, and registered under her mother's maiden name? Can't find a marriage for her parents, though.

                                        i cant either


                                        hm:conf:

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