Help for an 86 yr old to find her Grandfather

[Yvonne the Sandgrounder]

I have been asked to see if I can find the below in any census before those already found. Any help much appreciated. I have just finished trawling through 1851 Camerton census but no Ascombe family living there.

Any other advice where to search etc welcome.

Charles William Ascombe c1850
Unable to find a birth reg:(
Marriage cert states Father William - gardener

1881 RG11; Piece: 4627; Folio: 96; Page: 3
Charles W. Ascombe born c 1850 Camerton, Somerset
Spouse - Elizabeth nee Holmes – married 1880 Doncaster reg.
Address: Endcliffe Hall Lodge
Occupation -Servant Gardener (Dom)
Household
Charles W. Ascombe 31
Elizabeth Ascombe 26

1891 RG12; Piece: 3805; Folio 82; Page 9
Charles W Ascombe born c 1850 Camerton, Somerset
Household
Charles W Ascombe 41
Elizabeth Ascombe 36
William H Ascombe 7
Ernest H Ascombe 6

1901 RG13; Piece: 4351; Folio: 98; Page: 3.
Charles W Ascombe born c1850 Camerton, Somerset
Household
Charles W Ascombe 51
Elizabeth Ascombe 46
William H Ascombe 17
Ernest H Ascombe 16

[Anne in Carlisle]

The problem here seems to be that it is a very rare surname. I have found that the rarer the name the more likely it is to be mistranscribed.

Having said that there are no Charles born around that time in Camerton according to the 1861 and 1871 censuses except a Charles Smallcombe in the 1861.

Anne

[Lin Fisher]

Yvonne

Just to let you know I am also having a look but getting nowhere at the moment.

[Yvonne the Sandgrounder]

Thanks both.
Had a look at that Smallcombe but I think we can cross him off. Further down was a William Smallcombe who I looked at but he wasn't a gardener.

[Lin Fisher]

Camerton is in the reg district of Clutton.

I have looked at Charles William born 1848-1855 and the only people coming up are Parsons born Mar 1851 and Martin born Dec 1851.

Going to look at them now

[holcan]

Thanks both.
Had a look at that Smallcombe but I think we can cross him off. Further down was a William Smallcombe who I looked at but he wasn't a gardener.

Agree not the correct person as he appears in the 1881 Census as Charles Smallcombe

Also rather baffled because on Free BMD there are NO ascombes before 1870's,

[Lin Fisher]

He's on the 1911 census in Eccleshall Bierlow Yorks aged 61.

[Yvonne the Sandgrounder]

Very strange no Ascombes around. I just put in Ascombe and it appears all the births and marriages seem to descended only from Charles William.
Only 3 deaths and they are down in London, 1849, 1874, 1875 and two of them are children.

I think there is a name change here, so probably will never find him.

Thanks for looking anyway.

[Lin Fisher]

Yvonne

Have you got his death. I can't see it on Freebmd but if you have a rough date we could perhaps find something mistranscribed.

[ozgirl]

There is a William Lambdon (transcribed as Lambston) aged 25, gardener, in the Camerton, Somerset 1851 census. (Piece 1939, Folio 504 page 14) I can't read his place of birth. that's all I have so far

Linda

[Yvonne the Sandgrounder]

No sorry don't have his death. Just had a look on Ancestry but seems to be agter 1915.

[Yvonne the Sandgrounder]

Thanks Linda, had a look at that, cannot make out either where he was born. Translated as Chankingh, so no idea:o

[WendyP]

HI

Found this one Charles W ASCOMBE bn 1850 in the 1871 showing as being born Nofolk Occ Gardner

RG10 Piece:
4716 Folio:
117 Page:
5

Living at Keepers Lodge Sprotbrough, Civil Parish Sprotbrough REG District being Doncaster

[ozgirl]

Wendy, did you notice on that 1871 census the entry above hima. also a gardener was born in Camerton Somerset? Do you think they got muddled up? Very strange

Linda

[holcan]

HI

Found this one Charles W ASCOMBE bn 1850 in the 1871 showing as being born Nofolk Occ Gardner

RG10 Piece:
4716 Folio:
117 Page:
5

Living at Keepers Lodge Sprotbrough, Civil Parish Sprotbrough REG District being Doncaster

I notice the person above comes from camerton !!!

Beat me to it Ozgirl-I think they were muddled up as well
Also in Ancestry misstranscribed as Ascombo

[Christine in Herts]

Wendy, did you notice on that 1871 census the entry above hima. also a gardener was born in Camerton Somerset? Do you think they got muddled up? Very strange

Linda

In 1871 Charles W Ascombe (transcribed "Arcombo") is given PoB Faversham, Norfolk.
The 19-year-old on the row above, allegedly b Camerton was called George Spinks.
There's a 9-year-old George Spinks b & living in Taverham, Norfolk, in 1861.

And the 1871 enumerator was already changing the record - so he'd obviously already made at least one mistake.

Christine

[ozgirl]

Referring to my previous post William Lambdon was born in Chawleigh - I found him on subsequent census, but no son called Charles.

Linda

[Christine in Herts]

Just on a whim, I put the surname into the YorksBMD marriages database (Yorkshire Births Marriages & Deaths)

In 1880, ASCOMBE Charles W ~ married HOLMES Elizabeth ~ at St John's, Balby, Doncaster ~ Registers at Doncaster ~ ref CE1/1/194

That's the only Ascombe marriage from 1837 to 2008 in their database. I gather you have the cert already. There are no births or deaths recorded (yet), but they don't include Doncaster in the list of potential districts.

Christine

[Yvonne the Sandgrounder]

Thanks so much for your help everyone,
I reckon the one you found in 1871 is him, it even looks like Ascomb* on the census.

[tinkerbe]

hi i have just seen and i cant get on ancestry at moment but i think ( cant check) that private Ascombes tree on ancestry