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debsimlfc
25-09-09, 16:34
hi is there any1 who could search the 1911 for ellen forey for me please

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 16:40
Do you know where she was born and who she is likely to be with?
Have you found her in 1901 - if so do you have a reference.

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 16:42
hi i dont know where she was born but she lived in bradford with 3 children reginald,winifred and wilfred

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 16:45
no couldnt find her on 1901

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 16:46
When were the children born? Are any of them likely to be with her in 1911?

(There is nothing showing up in 1911 for the name of Ellen Forey - bc1894.)

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 16:48
her children were born 1922 1924 and 1930 surname binns im sort of guessing her year beacause i have her death cert she died 1959 aged 65

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 16:50
Do you have a marriage certificate for her? If so what is the name of her father and his occupation?

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 16:52
carnt find anything for her only the children i dont think she married there father

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 16:56
i have 1 of her chldrens birth certs and it says she is a house keeper his dads name is on it but she is still using her maiden name on it

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 17:00
The only ones I can see on the 1911 census are:

Ellen Forey, born c 1906 living in Staines Middlesex
Ellen Forey, born c 1880 living in Sherborne Dorsetshire
Ellen Forey, born c 1905 living in Preston Lancashire

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:03
i ahvent a clue wher 2 go from here then thanks for your help if you have any ideas will you let me know please i wonder if for some reason they were living with their father he was henry squire binns born 1883 died jan 1938

margaretmarch
25-09-09, 17:03
Birth for Wilfred Binns Sep 1922 mmn Forey, Bradford 9b, page 261
Winifred Binns Sep 1930 mmn Forey, Bradford 9b, page 291
Nothing showing for Reginald
Margaret

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 17:04
Do you mean Ellen Forey's father was Henry Squire Binns?

margaretmarch
25-09-09, 17:06
Found Reginald A Binns mmn Forey born Dec 1924 N. Bierley, 9b, page 25

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:09
i wonder if for some reason they lived with ther father he was henry squire binns born 1883 died jan 1938

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:09
yes thats my grandad

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 17:10
You are not going to find the children on a census as they weren't born until after 1920. The latest census we have access to is 1911.

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:10
sorry no hes the kids dad

margaretmarch
25-09-09, 17:11
On 1911 there's a Mary Ellen Binns living in N. Bierley, Yorkshire she's age 18 so born c1893
Could this be her?
Margaret

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:11
could you try henry for me and see if hes connected to ellen in anyway please

Elaine ..Spain
25-09-09, 17:21
I can see a Henry Squires Binns in the 1901 census, born c1884 Bradford Yorkshire - parents Thomas born c 1853 and Elizabeth born c1852 - siblings Mary Elizabeth (c1867), William (c1869), Olive (c1870) and Annie (c1872).

Difficult to pinpoint Henry in the 1911 census - there are a few possibilities that might be worth looking at but it's a pay per view site.

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:35
yes that could be her ive often thought that she might be using her middle name could you send me the info please

margaretmarch
25-09-09, 17:42
There are 2 Henry Binns on 1911 in Bradford one b1873, and the other 1889.
Margaret

margaretmarch
25-09-09, 17:44
I haven't got any credits left on the 1911 so all I can see is that she is there. But where does the name Foley come in? Do you think she just called herself Binns?
Margaret

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:45
ive already found him on the 1901 could you send me the 1911 info on mary ellen binns please

debsimlfc
25-09-09, 17:45
yes i think she did thankyou for all your help

Helen Smith Too
25-09-09, 22:33
Am I imaging things, or was there a similar thread to this going nowhere fast earlier this week?

kylejustin
26-09-09, 07:04
yes helen your right. we established that ellen forey had an affair with henry squire binns, but we couldnt find a marriage, because he was still married to edith greenwood, from 1904 onwards. there were still births in the 20's of binns with mothers name greenwood, but we werent sure if they were henry and edith's or not.

here is th thread:
http://www.familytreeforum.com/research-qs/73951-ellen-forey-1894-1959-england.html