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  • Mystery George from the LMA

    Hi

    Like a lot of you I have had great fun over the past few days finding lots of new info about relatives from the LMA records on Ancestry. However, I have one mystery which I can't seem to solve and wonder if you guys can help me sort it out?

    My grandfather was George Edwin Sexton, b. Dec 1906 in Bermondsey. I have his family on the 1911 census - his father was William George and his mother was Emily Louise Sexton. He had brothers Albert and Frederick and a sister Elizabeth Eleanor. William listed on the census return that they had 5 children born alive - 4 still alive, 1 dead. There are 4 children listed on the census so - so far so good.

    Now, according to the LMA baptism records, I can find 2 children who are listed as William and Emily's children.

    1) Alice Emily, bap. 21 Jun 1899 St Barnabus (although the register says St Katherine's!) Rotherhithe.

    I found her birth (1898) and death (1899) details on free BMD.


    2) George William, bap. 19 Dec 1899 St Barnabus, Rotherhithe. Apart from the LMA baptism records I can find no trace of him (no births or deaths). My grandfather was a George too so I would expect that he died some time before December 1906. He is not listed with the family on the 1911 census ... although there is a 3 year old George Sexton who is visiting a family of Garrat's in 1911. It is not a name I recognise but I don't know too much about Emily Louise's family (her maiden name was Thomas).

    Can anyone please help me? I don't understand why I can't find his birth / death in the normal records (I can't see how to search all the quarters now on Ancestry - can anyone help?) and why he is not listed as one of their children on the 1911 census. I presume that the vicar did list the correct parents ...? (My great grandfather got my grandfather's middle name wrong so could this have just been a mistake on his part?)

    Thanks in advance ...
    :D Charney Jo

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    OK, just had a thought. The birth of my grandad's brother Albert (Albert William George Sexton) is listed on freebmd as Jan-Mar 1900. I have searched the baptism records for St Katherine's for 1900 and cannot find an Albert (although I appreciate that he may not have been baptised that year).

    Could Albert and George William be one and the same????

    Thanks ... Off to bed to clear my head now!!
    :D Charney Jo

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    • #3
      Possible I know someone who was registered as William John but known as Rob because he was baptised as Robin.

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      • #4
        Thanks Jac. I think I will assume it is the same person as it tallies with the number of children his father gave on the 1911 census.
        :D Charney Jo

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        • #5
          Why are you so certain that Alice Emily was baptised at St Barnabas, if the register says "St Katherine's". I can't see how that's likely. You have a church register and enter the baptisms that are celebrated there. It's a requirement of the church. Isn't it more likely that Alice was baptised at St Katherine's for some reason? Maybe they moved house, and between the two events, and that meant a change of parish?

          Christine

          Another thought... Was St Katherine's a daughter church in the parish of St Barnabas? In that case, the baptism was celebrated in St Katherine's, but the parish is St Barnabas.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Christine in Herts View Post
            Why are you so certain that Alice Emily was baptised at St Barnabas, if the register says "St Katherine's". I can't see how that's likely. You have a church register and enter the baptisms that are celebrated there. It's a requirement of the church. Isn't it more likely that Alice was baptised at St Katherine's for some reason? Maybe they moved house, and between the two events, and that meant a change of parish?

            Christine

            Another thought... Was St Katherine's a daughter church in the parish of St Barnabas? In that case, the baptism was celebrated in St Katherine's, but the parish is St Barnabas.
            I think this is due to one of the transcription hiccups. The indexing says St Barnabus but the image of the register page shows it was St Katherine. I have similar situation where Ancestry have listed a baptism in Pentonville to a church in Southwark.
            Judith passed away in October 2018

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            • #7
              Hmmm ... I answered this earlier but my post has now gone :-(

              Yes, Judith, it is an ancestry transcription error. The resgisters clearly state St Katherine's but ancestry has them as St Barnabus.

              I have since looked back at my notes and Albert was 1 month old in the 1901 census (taken in May) so he couldn't be the one who was baptised in 1899. Hmmmm .. how can I have an 'extra' child for the family??
              :D Charney Jo

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