query birth cert order for 1981 needing birthdate

[jebbo]

Hi
Wondering if there is anyway of ordering a 1981 birth cert from gro without known birthdate I have ref nos only
have tried and each time it comes back need birthdate

jebbo

[Harrys mum]

I've never needed a birthdate Jebbo.

Can you put up who it is and what you've found.



Scrap that........mine have been earlier ones......sorry.

[Jessbowbag]

Have you got the full GRO ref?

[Helen in Bucks]

you might find an answer in the Help or FAQs section on the GRO database

I think with recent certs it is to help prevent identity fraud, i.e. a common way of stealing an identity is to find a child death and order the corresponding birth cert and then pass the birth cert off as your own

I think you need the dob to prove you are a legitimate enquirer, i.e. if its a close rellie of yours you would know their dob and if they aren't a close rellie why do you need the cert

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

If the problem surrounding an overseas payment isn't too much of a problem it's probably easier to order from the local office, they usually ask for the year/district and not the exact date.

[jebbo]

yes Jessbowbag we have full gro ref fathers names mothers names only no certain of birthdate , was hoping it might help track down last address of mums cousins
Jebbo

Have you got the full GRO ref?

[jebbo]

Hi Glen
thankyou not certain about payment options for bournemouth local office
Jebbo

If the problem surrounding an overseas payment isn't too much of a problem it's probably easier to order from the local office, they usually ask for the year/district and not the exact date.

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

Looks like they are geared up for postal applications more than anything but the contact details and ordering information can be found via the link

Births, deaths, marriages

[Helen in Bucks]

As per my previous post, this is what it says on the GRO website:

For births, marriages and deaths, you may apply online for any certificate if you have the full GRO index reference. In the case of events in the last 50 years you will be prompted to supply further details as you complete the online application form.

I.e. if you are trying to order a birth cert for a birth in the last 50 years you will be asked for more information. As I suspected this is to try to avoid ID fraud. Many countries have much more stringent rules than this.

[jebbo]

Hi Glen
Thankyou for link off to have alook now
Jebbo

Looks like they are geared up for postal applications more than anything but the contact details and ordering information can be found via the link

Births, deaths, marriages

[jebbo]

Hi Helen
Yes can understand they make it more difficult to obtain more recent certs
which is a good thing re ID fraud ,was hoping if we had all details relating to cert fathers name mother name but not actual birth date we could still get cert
it makes it harder to try and track down family . Mum lost contact with some family members when she moved to OZ recently found info on one cousin who sadly died in 1999
so we are trying to find other cousins

Jebbo

As per my previous post, this is what it says on the GRO website:

For births, marriages and deaths, you may apply online for any certificate if you have the full GRO index reference. In the case of events in the last 50 years you will be prompted to supply further details as you complete the online application form.

I.e. if you are trying to order a birth cert for a birth in the last 50 years you will be asked for more information. As I suspected this is to try to avoid ID fraud. Many countries have much more stringent rules than this.

[jebbo]

[Hi Glen
Just had alook at site , looks like you can not order from them either without full details .
Jebbo

QUOTE=Glen in Tinsel Knickers;1811264]Looks like they are geared up for postal applications more than anything but the contact details and ordering information can be found via the link

Births, deaths, marriages[/QUOTE]

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

It's a pretty standard application form to be honest, most local offices include space for exact place and date of birth simply because a lot of enquiries are from people wanting a copy of their own certificate and they can provide the details. Just because the dob field is there doesn't mean everyone will be able to give the exact date.

I sent for a copy of a recent (post 1984) cert from a local office and simply quoted the reg district, year and mmn as a check point. You could always send them an e-mail enquiry to clarify things.

[jebbo]

Ok thanks Glen
Will send them an email

Jebbo

It's a pretty standard application form to be honest, most local offices include space for exact place and date of birth simply because a lot of enquiries are from people wanting a copy of their own certificate and they can provide the details. Just because the dob field is there doesn't mean everyone will be able to give the exact date.

I sent for a copy of a recent (post 1984) cert from a local office and simply quoted the reg district, year and mmn as a check point. You could always send them an e-mail enquiry to clarify things.