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After a break from tracing my tree, I decided to have another go at braking down some of my 'walls' over the weekend, and think I may have at least made a very small hole in one of them, but need help to trace it up.
I was looking at my Florence ancester's, and was going over the certificates I have when I came across my 2nd great grandfather's birth in 1842, when he was registered as John Fleurance. I have never given much thought to the mispelling before, but after stalling in my search, I decided to try and attempt to find out the accent of his mother from the mispelling. To me, and I may be wrong, it sounds a little French (in the Allo Allo sort of way).
John was registered by his mother, who's maiden name was Hall, so I guess she was English. But if her husband said the name in the Fleurance way, it may be the only way she can say it. So, First question - what do you think? Could Fleurance be the French way of saying Florence, or am I barking up the wrong tree!
I have found a fair few of the christenings of John and his siblings, and on most of them, the name is either Florence or Florance. There is one that has the surname as Florrens, and one as Lawrance though. Second question - Does this rule out them above link, or were the vicars just better at understanding them?
John's father was William, born about 1799. On the 1861 census, the only census I can find him on, he says he was born at Burton-upon-Trent. I have visited the library at Burton, and searched through the records, COE and Non-Conformist, and he is not there. Neither could I find two other Florence's born around the same time, and found on the census', Edward (born 1791 - who's son Nathaniel is living next to William's son John family on the 1881 census - surley it carn't be coincidence), and Richard (born 1796, at either Burton or Tutbury). The IGI has the records for Tutbury COE church, and they are not there either. Third question - If Edward, Richard & William's parents came from France, and were Catholic, where would they christen their children? Would they simply go to COE? Fourth question - If the three were lying about where they were born, or mis-understood the question asked, and were actualy from France, why would they not say France if they were born there? - Just looking at all posabilities with that one, there is no proof to suggest they were from France.
Fifth question - Is there any records that record all the French people coming into Britain. I guess that there would have been quite a few from the storming of the Bastille (1791?) onwards.
Sorry about the long story - I think it may be best to post up everything I know about them. And sorry for all the questions!
Thanks,
Tippin
After a break from tracing my tree, I decided to have another go at braking down some of my 'walls' over the weekend, and think I may have at least made a very small hole in one of them, but need help to trace it up.
I was looking at my Florence ancester's, and was going over the certificates I have when I came across my 2nd great grandfather's birth in 1842, when he was registered as John Fleurance. I have never given much thought to the mispelling before, but after stalling in my search, I decided to try and attempt to find out the accent of his mother from the mispelling. To me, and I may be wrong, it sounds a little French (in the Allo Allo sort of way).
John was registered by his mother, who's maiden name was Hall, so I guess she was English. But if her husband said the name in the Fleurance way, it may be the only way she can say it. So, First question - what do you think? Could Fleurance be the French way of saying Florence, or am I barking up the wrong tree!
I have found a fair few of the christenings of John and his siblings, and on most of them, the name is either Florence or Florance. There is one that has the surname as Florrens, and one as Lawrance though. Second question - Does this rule out them above link, or were the vicars just better at understanding them?
John's father was William, born about 1799. On the 1861 census, the only census I can find him on, he says he was born at Burton-upon-Trent. I have visited the library at Burton, and searched through the records, COE and Non-Conformist, and he is not there. Neither could I find two other Florence's born around the same time, and found on the census', Edward (born 1791 - who's son Nathaniel is living next to William's son John family on the 1881 census - surley it carn't be coincidence), and Richard (born 1796, at either Burton or Tutbury). The IGI has the records for Tutbury COE church, and they are not there either. Third question - If Edward, Richard & William's parents came from France, and were Catholic, where would they christen their children? Would they simply go to COE? Fourth question - If the three were lying about where they were born, or mis-understood the question asked, and were actualy from France, why would they not say France if they were born there? - Just looking at all posabilities with that one, there is no proof to suggest they were from France.
Fifth question - Is there any records that record all the French people coming into Britain. I guess that there would have been quite a few from the storming of the Bastille (1791?) onwards.
Sorry about the long story - I think it may be best to post up everything I know about them. And sorry for all the questions!
Thanks,
Tippin
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