Still looking - solved! #42

[doug_cobham]

Hi to all
I am still looking for the death & Buriel of a Margaret Cobham how gave birth to a son in Ormskirk work house in June 1859.The family was living In North Meols South Port and are on the 1851 census for South Port,thay are also on 1861 census for Shouth Port,Her husband Thurston Cobham is living with his new wife Mary Cobham in 1861 in South port .Margaret has disaperd.I have tried South Port records also Ormskirk. also the parishrecords on line, the onley Margaret I can fined is her 4year old daugters beath in 1860 in South port. Can any one pleas help me and put me on track where to look next.
Regards Doug Cobham

[garstonite]

do you have Thurston and Margarets marriage on Lancashirebmd?...if so what year did they marry ?....allan
ADDED
on freebmd only ONE Marriage for Thurston Cobham...in 1860 in Liverpool
on Lancashirebmd....it states
Thurston Cobham to Mary McDonald ref No 2122LP/40/343
Thurston Cobham to Mary Shipley ref No 2122LP/40/343
BOTH REF NO`s THE SAME ??????....NO marriage for a Thurston Cobham to any Margaret.....allan

[JulesSmith]

Doug, is West Derby no good for the death?
Margaret Cobham
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 314

Or are you looking for a death before 1861?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Thurston Cobham to Mary McDonald ref No 2122LP/40/343
Thurston Cobham to Mary Shipley ref No 2122LP/40/343
BOTH REF NO`s THE SAME ??????....

Allan, that just means it wasn't Mary's first marriage. McDonald will be her first married name as this is the name on the GRO index. Presumably Shipley would be her maiden surname.

[garstonite]

the birth of the baby in 1859 in Ormskirk Workhouse is on FreeBMD Home Page
THURSTON COBHAM June Qtr 1859 Ref No 8b 576......still can`t find the marriage of Thurston to Margaret....are you sure Margaret was Cobham at the time of the babys birth ??....allan
ADDED
Thurston Cobham 1859 registered at Preston born Ormskirk Ref No OK/10/46....this will give you Margarets name at the time of the birth....allan

[KiteRunner]

If I remember correctly from previous threads, Doug has all the other info and is just looking for Margaret's death and burial.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

The marriage Allan found was Q4 1860. I see the family were living in Ormskirk district in 1861, so couldn't this be Thurston's first wife:

Deaths Sep 1860
Cobham Margaret Ormskirk 8b 320

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Thanks Kite, I never remember when there's been an old thread. I suppose the death I found was the daughter.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

So we are not looking for the death of Margaret senior after 1851 but after the birth of Margaret junr in 1856, halving the time frame in one stroke!?

[garstonite]

thanks Merry regarding Marys marriage...never seen that before but did presume about the 2 surnames.....regarding Margarets death,I was under the assumption we were looking for her death after the birth of her baby in 1859 ???....allan

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Oooh yes - thankyou, you are quite right Allan! I just focussed on the information given that she was with her OH in 1851 and he had a new wife by 1861.

Do we know that Margaret was definitely the mother of the 1859 baby?

[Olde Crone Holden]

Baby Thurston died aged 0 in 1860, Preston.

You need a birth cert for Margaret's maiden name. I hope it wasn't Howard.

OC

[doug_cobham]

still looking

Hi Thanks for nyour help so fare

I am looking for the Death of Margaret the mother wife of Thurston Cobham (Cobbin ) Cubham) Margaret was Margaret ( Boddy) be for there marrage thay married in South port in 1850 have cert. Thurston was married three times in all Margaret was his second wife

[Olde Crone Holden]

Doug

So, do you not think Merry has found the correct death? (post 7 on this thread). Looks very good to me, especially as Thurston junior also died in 1860.

OC

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Doug

So, do you not think Merry has found the correct death? (post 7 on this thread). Looks very good to me, especially as Thurston junior also died in 1860.

OC

Doug has said on another thread that the 1860 death was for their daughter aged 4 (from memory)

[garstonite]

Doug...where did Thurston and Margaret Boddy marry ??...can`t find marriage on freebmd...allan

[kylejustin]

he said southport alan.

[Olde Crone Holden]

The marriage was 1854, Preston

Margaret Boddy or Jones to Thurston Read.

EDIT -NO! WRONG! She married WILLIAM Read!

Her previous marriage was in 1848

OC

[garstonite]

thanks OC...was that REGISTERED in Preston because of the Ormskirk connection or was Margaret Boddy/Jones from Preston ?...allan
ADDED...I can only find ONE marriage for Thurston....the one to Mary

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Doug

So, do you not think Merry has found the correct death? (post 7 on this thread). Looks very good to me, especially as Thurston junior also died in 1860.

OC

I can't remember if I've said this before, but I do keep wondering - what was the cause of death for Margaret junr? I wondered (yeh, I know, a bit ridiculous really!) if she and her mum died from something contagious or something they might both have all got at the same time for some other reason? If the two Margaret's died at the same time (within days) it is remotely possible their death were registered at the same time and you can imagine if there were two Margaret Cobhams registered for death together and they were on the same page of the register, it wold be easy for the GRO to think the record was duplicated, particularly given that age at death wasn't quoted in 1860.

Did you get the cert from the GRO or the local office?

Who registered the death of Margaret junr?