Coffee House Keeper

[Guest]

one of my rellies married the Daughter of a Coffee house Keeper what exactly would that entail ??? would it be a shop ???? it was in 1863 and they lived in Southwark

[Christine in Herts]

Did she end up with the surname Starbuck or Costa?

As I understand it, coffee houses were what we'd call cafés - but were treated more like a pub - where the men (usually) went to talk business and politics.

Christine

[Elizabeth Herts]

Val, both my great-great-grandparents were "Coffee House Keepers" when they married in the 1850s.

On all the censuses he was a Coffee House Keeper, but on his death certificate he is a Hotel Keeper! (1882) By that time he'd progressed to a better neighbourhood too. :D

[Little Nell]

Coffee houses were popular places for businessmen to talk.

[Little Nell]

Dictionary of Victorian London - Victorian History - 19th Century London - Social History

check in the index for coffee houses

[susan h]

You may find this interesting, Val.

Classic Cafes: An Intimate History

[Guest]

Christine no actually his name was Bon LOL
thanks everyone was hoping he was posh ????

[Guest]

and thanks for the links fascinating stuff

[Guest]

Hi Ben I was wondering if I could find out the name of the one he ran?? wonder if I could

[Rachel Scand]

Hi Ben I was wondering if I could find out the name of the one he ran?? wonder if I could

S'pose you've tried googling but what about A2A ...

The National Archives | Access to Archives

That's where I found a little more info abt my Coffee House Keeper ~ 1880s & 90s ~ there was something about leases

Just tried it again
Put in the name of the street (omit the number) give a rough date and click search

[John Patrick]

Coffee Houses

Coffee Houses all over London provided facilities where businessmen could meet investors. Some specialised in what is now the "Futures" market and some in investment in companies. Some were simply places where local businessmen could meet to do smaller deals.

The most famous Coffee House in the 17th & 18th Century was Lloyds in the City of London. The business carried out there developed from making deals to insure individual ships and cargo into the biggest Insurance organisation in the world. That business is still called Lloyds.

[Guest]

thanks Rachel didnt think to just put the street name in

[Rachel Scand]

A2A is weird (unless it's me of course!)

Tried it again as I was only getting one result earlier

This time I had a date range ~ 1875 - 1900
in the 'one or all of these words' box I put the street name
Next box ~ a surname
Place ~ street name (again)

This time I have 36 results and the 1st four are mine

[Guest]

Thanks Ben didnt think to check them and thanks again Rachel shall try that

[hattie]

Really excited over this thread as my Leopold Gerlach was a coffee house keeper in London in the 1900's. When he died in the 1920's he left lots of properties in Islington so must have done quite welll from all that caffeine! Just wish I could trace a birth certificate for him!

[Rachel Scand]

Really excited over this thread as my Leopold Gerlach was a coffee house keeper in London in the 1900's. When he died in the 1920's he left lots of properties in Islington so must have done quite welll from all that caffeine! Just wish I could trace a birth certificate for him!

Hiya
Do you need any help looking for him ?
Or have you done it all and he's one of those impossibles ?

Ah just found a Philip Gerlach (Coffee House Keeper - 1901) so presumably they were all from Germany ?

Found Leopold on the 1911 census but when I put in Germany as place of birth, he disappeared :(

[Christine in Herts]

Hiya
...

Found Leopold on the 1911 census but when I put in Germany as place of birth, he disappeared :(

So that means that, either he didn't say he came from Germany at all, or he only mentioned the place-name...or he specified teh region - e.g. Prussia, Hesse, Saxony, Bavaria, Westphalia

Christine

[Christine in Herts]

Someone of that family did serve in WW1 - there's a medal card for that name, in particular (but no service record, so far :( )

Christine

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

From memory () Leopold was born in Shoreditch....or was it Bethnal Green?? (He's spelled correctly on the 1891 census!!)

[Christine in Herts]

Really excited over this thread as my Leopold Gerlach was a coffee house keeper in London in the 1900's. When he died in the 1920's he left lots of properties in Islington so must have done quite welll from all that caffeine! Just wish I could trace a birth certificate for him!

This link also gives info about the Leopold GERLACH in WW1:
Gazette Website: PDF Navigator

... later known as James GILBERT!

I see you've found this already (googled)

Christine