Ok a brick wall - a low one but solid
Sorry its long winded
Luke Lees (b1831) and Noah Lees(b1835) leave their Father's (John) home (a Coaching Inn and farm) in Collinwood lancs together. I think quite young.... say approx 1847.
The Inn and Farm is later run by their elder Brother Solomon (so they don't inherit that)
I can't find them on the 1851 census.
They arrive together in liverpool (2 Heath Road ) with money !!
They marry sisters Agnes and Mary Hacking-Spence - Father a sea Captain with (I think) his own ships and certainly one hell of a boring but beautifully bound library !!!
Noah buys half the Star Theatre and on selling later retires very early in comfort.
Luke moves to Wirral approx 1859 ; buys the Railway Inn and lives there; But and its a Big But is invited on to the Commission that precedes the Council in Birkenhead (planned B,head , the Park etc. )
Now whilst it takes some money to buy a theatre and a pub it takes considerable dosh to sit at a table with John Laird etc. on the Commission.
I know later he owned property in the area as well but I'm not sure when that was acquired.
There is a family story of Luke (maybe and Noah) coming to Liverpool via Manchester and having a "water business" there (Manchester at this point relied on bottled and barrelled water brought into the city - there were riots about supply)
Lees the place ( nr Oldham) where they all originate had a spa and bottled water.
Is this the source of the money ???
At what point and where (more family stories) did they "travel before they got married"
Is this where they were in 1851 ???
Was this the source of the money ???
I know it seems sort of mercenary but it isn't ( the Taxman got all the money in the end :( ) it just bugs me that there's an enormous change in lifestyle over a relatively short span of time and I can't find the details So Help please..........
Roger
Sorry its long winded
Luke Lees (b1831) and Noah Lees(b1835) leave their Father's (John) home (a Coaching Inn and farm) in Collinwood lancs together. I think quite young.... say approx 1847.
The Inn and Farm is later run by their elder Brother Solomon (so they don't inherit that)
I can't find them on the 1851 census.
They arrive together in liverpool (2 Heath Road ) with money !!
They marry sisters Agnes and Mary Hacking-Spence - Father a sea Captain with (I think) his own ships and certainly one hell of a boring but beautifully bound library !!!
Noah buys half the Star Theatre and on selling later retires very early in comfort.
Luke moves to Wirral approx 1859 ; buys the Railway Inn and lives there; But and its a Big But is invited on to the Commission that precedes the Council in Birkenhead (planned B,head , the Park etc. )
Now whilst it takes some money to buy a theatre and a pub it takes considerable dosh to sit at a table with John Laird etc. on the Commission.
I know later he owned property in the area as well but I'm not sure when that was acquired.
There is a family story of Luke (maybe and Noah) coming to Liverpool via Manchester and having a "water business" there (Manchester at this point relied on bottled and barrelled water brought into the city - there were riots about supply)
Lees the place ( nr Oldham) where they all originate had a spa and bottled water.
Is this the source of the money ???
At what point and where (more family stories) did they "travel before they got married"
Is this where they were in 1851 ???
Was this the source of the money ???
I know it seems sort of mercenary but it isn't ( the Taxman got all the money in the end :( ) it just bugs me that there's an enormous change in lifestyle over a relatively short span of time and I can't find the details So Help please..........
Roger
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