I have just received 2 birth certificates for a brother and sister, what surprised me was that the mother's maiden name changes on each certificate but her signature is the same on each certificate. I think it is the same woman as mother in both cases especially because of what she quotes as her maiden name on the girl's birth certificate appears as a variation on her son's middle name.
The fathers also have different christian names but the same surnames - so were they related/brothers/cousins/father-son?
I've got Thomas Ede c.1850 Epsom on the 1861-1901 census sheets, he died before 1907 but I could not find him in the 1851 census yet (his sister was born in Oct 1851). It may be I could not find him as I was looking for a Thomas Ede son of George Ede whereas I should have looked for Thomas as being the head of the household.
The 1871 Census shows that they are brother and sister, and strangely the younger sibling Matilda is the head of the household rather than her brother (In 1861 Thomas was working as a groom in Wiltshire for an Isaac Woolcott, so he was living away from home so by 1871 Matilda may have had her own house/shack on Epsom Common and that might be why she was shown as head instead of her older brother).
1871 census
Address: Common, Epsom schedule no. 192
Registration District: Epsom
Matilda Ede - age 20 born c. 1851 Epsom, Surrey, head, female, nurse maid, single
Thomas Ede - age 21 born c. 1850 Epsom, Surrey, brother, maile, labourer, single
The birth certificates tell me:
Thomas Dukey Ede born 2nd Oct 1850 - father's name: Thomas Ede brick maker, mother's surname and maiden name: Eliza Ede formerly Chapman Oct-Dec 1850 Vol 4 page 149 Epsom
Matilda Ede born 9 Oct 1851 - father's name: George Ede Labourer, mother's surname and maiden name: Eliza Ede formerly Duke Oct-Dec 1851 Vol 4 page 161 Epsom
George Ede, Matilda's father is stated as a game-keeper and is recorded as father for Thomas Ede on his marriage certificate that I have for his marriage on 12/1/1873 in Stoke D'Abernon, Cobham.
So I can sort of see how Thomas Dukey Ede got his middle name if it was his mother's maiden name, but on his birth certificate she gives her maiden name as Chapman not Duke.
But also the fathers have different names on the siblings birth certificates but they are both Ede's!
Q1. Does any one have any ideas why has Eliza used 2 maiden names?
Q2. Could she have married 2 brothers?!
Q3. Why does Thomas Ede's marriage certificate say that his father was George Ede, game-keeper, when his birth certificate says his father was Thomas Ede, brick-maker? Could it be that George Ede was a step-father to young Thomas Ede if Thomas Ede senior disappeared/died within a year of young Thomas' birth?
George Ede died sometime after the marriage of Thomas Ede to Susan Reddick in 1873 but I've not found when yet or when he was born.
I just thought it so strange the mother had 2 different maiden names and it was the same registrar for both birth registrations.
I suppose a trip to the Records office to look at parish records for Epsom may help unravel the mystery?
The fathers also have different christian names but the same surnames - so were they related/brothers/cousins/father-son?
I've got Thomas Ede c.1850 Epsom on the 1861-1901 census sheets, he died before 1907 but I could not find him in the 1851 census yet (his sister was born in Oct 1851). It may be I could not find him as I was looking for a Thomas Ede son of George Ede whereas I should have looked for Thomas as being the head of the household.
The 1871 Census shows that they are brother and sister, and strangely the younger sibling Matilda is the head of the household rather than her brother (In 1861 Thomas was working as a groom in Wiltshire for an Isaac Woolcott, so he was living away from home so by 1871 Matilda may have had her own house/shack on Epsom Common and that might be why she was shown as head instead of her older brother).
1871 census
Address: Common, Epsom schedule no. 192
Registration District: Epsom
Matilda Ede - age 20 born c. 1851 Epsom, Surrey, head, female, nurse maid, single
Thomas Ede - age 21 born c. 1850 Epsom, Surrey, brother, maile, labourer, single
The birth certificates tell me:
Thomas Dukey Ede born 2nd Oct 1850 - father's name: Thomas Ede brick maker, mother's surname and maiden name: Eliza Ede formerly Chapman Oct-Dec 1850 Vol 4 page 149 Epsom
Matilda Ede born 9 Oct 1851 - father's name: George Ede Labourer, mother's surname and maiden name: Eliza Ede formerly Duke Oct-Dec 1851 Vol 4 page 161 Epsom
George Ede, Matilda's father is stated as a game-keeper and is recorded as father for Thomas Ede on his marriage certificate that I have for his marriage on 12/1/1873 in Stoke D'Abernon, Cobham.
So I can sort of see how Thomas Dukey Ede got his middle name if it was his mother's maiden name, but on his birth certificate she gives her maiden name as Chapman not Duke.
But also the fathers have different names on the siblings birth certificates but they are both Ede's!
Q1. Does any one have any ideas why has Eliza used 2 maiden names?
Q2. Could she have married 2 brothers?!
Q3. Why does Thomas Ede's marriage certificate say that his father was George Ede, game-keeper, when his birth certificate says his father was Thomas Ede, brick-maker? Could it be that George Ede was a step-father to young Thomas Ede if Thomas Ede senior disappeared/died within a year of young Thomas' birth?
George Ede died sometime after the marriage of Thomas Ede to Susan Reddick in 1873 but I've not found when yet or when he was born.
I just thought it so strange the mother had 2 different maiden names and it was the same registrar for both birth registrations.
I suppose a trip to the Records office to look at parish records for Epsom may help unravel the mystery?
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