Birth Cert for Ada Bird

[rkic]

I ordered the birth Cert for OH's gt grandmother Ada Bird born 2/11/1861 in Bristol in the hope of finding Ada's mother Elizabeth's maiden name. No prizes for guessing which is the only word I can't make out on the cert!

On the 1861 census Elizabeth comes from Kendal (RG9/1723/84/15) born about 1834.

On the 1851 census Ada's father, Henry, is married to Hannah born Lowther about 1821 (HO107/2442/307/1) and living in Kendal. His occupation was a comb maker which he also states in 1871 and 1881.

Any help with identifying Elizabeth's maiden name would be appreciated.

[Little Nell]

Could be anything! Sannier, Hawick, Tavier? I couldn't see a likely marriage for Henry Bird and Elizabeth. Do you know when/if Hannah died?

[Orangeblossom]

I think it ends in Y, but apart from that, it could be anything lol

[Rachel Scand]

Can't see a marriage on FreeBMD with a surname that looks similar ... tried 1850 - 1864 (all Counties)

[rkic]

Could be anything! Sannier, Hawick, Tavier? I couldn't see a likely marriage for Henry Bird and Elizabeth. Do you know when/if Hannah died?

I can't see a likely death regn between 1851 and 1861 except perhaps one in Clifton Dec 1859.

[Darksecretz]

Robert,

is there any chance that you can post more of the cert up? so we can compare letters??

nearest I have got at the mo is either:

Sa_mier OR Sa_wier but comparing with what letters are available seems most likely

[rkic]

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[Rachel Scand]

Bracket missing in rkic's previous post

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

If you got the cert from the GRO you could try phoning the local office and asking them to have a look at the original.

[WendyPusey]

Think it starts with T or F and ends in R. Tanner? Farmer?

[Rachel Scand]

Does look like 'S' but could it be a 'T' ?

Comparing it with the 'T' at the beginning of 'Thirteenth'

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I've just looked at all the Elizabeths b Kendal on the 1851 census of the right age, looking for names ending in R. Hmmmmm, surprisingly few.......nothing looks likely!

[rkic]

I didn't want to start with my attempt at reading it in case it misled anyone. Comparing letters I thought it started with a 'T' and ended 'me' see "formerly"

Thanks to Rachel for correcting my clumsiness with the link.

[Rachel Scand]

:( There's an Elizabeth Terner/Turner ... 1851 census

[Olde Crone Holden]

Definitely ends in r, compare the r in formerly.

The first letter is the same as the one just out of sight top right hand corner. S, I think, but depends what THAT word says!

OC

[Darksecretz]

Like Rachel says the S and T are very similar....

I now think it does say TANNER or TANNIER but as I dont know where she was born I cant check..

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

It might have said Turner on the original I suppose. Def worth contacting Bristol Reg Office.

[rkic]

The first letter is the same as the one just out of sight top right hand corner. S, I think, but depends what THAT word says!

OC

There isn't anything more in top right corner. I think that letter is the end of an abbreviated Frederick.

[PeteW1959]

There is an Elizabeth Tamer b1834 and 2 Turners b 1836 and 1835 in Kendal in 1841

[rkic]

I've just found an Elizabeth Tanner/ Tunner/Turner aged 7 on the 1841 census for Kendal.

Thanks to you all for your help.

I think a call to the local RO to confirm is the next step and then a hunt for a marriage.....