Sorry if this is very long winded, but I started out as an execise to marshall my thoughts but when I did, it raised a few queries which I hope you all can help me with.
This particular line of Haworths/Howorths has long been one of my brick walls and at least a right pain in the **** and got me perplexed when I recieved a marriage cert for James Haworth/Elizabeth Dewhurst see below.
I set my problem out in reverse chronological order i.e. the way I approached it knowing who my grandfather was.
One of the biggest problems is that I'm knee deep in James Haworths/Howorths and Elizabeth's, Haworth/Howorth is a very popular name around the Rossendale area of Lancashire abit akin to Jones in Cardiff !!
I've put in red were I think there is a issue, but I would appreciate any of you having a look and see if I've gone wrong anywhere (that is a- you don't go to sleep, b- slope of for a vast number of drinks or c- decide drinking is much better than reading this drivel ! and pour another.
Many thanks in advance if you can get through it and help with the queries
Date
Who
What
01/07/1897
Harold Foy
From Birth Cert. F, Michael Foy, MMN Mary Elizabeth HOWARTH
born at New Barn Newchurch Lanc's
27/03/1897
Michael Foy & Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH
From Marriage Cert, Married at St Peters Catholic Church Haslingden
Groom Michael Foy age 22 Bachelor, Cotton Throstler, living at 11 Hope St Cloughfold,
F Patrick Foy a Stone Quarrier
Bride, Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH, age 21, spinster, Cotton Throstler, living at New Barn, Newchurch,
F JOHN ? HOWORTH deceased Wollen Miller. (is this a mistranscription or hard of hearing registrar, or have I gone off the correct trail? see Elizabeth's BC below
Witnesses: John R Taylor & Annie N Taylor
1891
Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH
1891 Census: RG12/3348/16/25
14 Miller Bank Lane Newchurch
all HOWORTH's Born Newchurch area except Elizabeth Newton Heath
Elizabeth HOWORTH 35
John 18
Mary Elizabeth 16
Fredrick 13
Eleanor 11
James 10
Arthur 5
Wilfred 2
George Taylor 26 )
Charles Stott ) Boarders
Newton Stott )
1890
James HOWORTH
Died Q1 age 40 Haslingden 8e/93
1881
James HOWORTH
1881 Census RG11/4129/56/28
St Georges Row Newchurch
James HOWORTH 31 B Waterfoot Fulling Miller
Elizabeth 27 B Newton Heath
John D 8
Mary Elizabeth 6
George H 3
Eleanor 1
Margaret DEWHURST 74 Waterfoot Occupier (Head) (This is I believe is James G Mother)
28/11/1874
Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH
From Birth Cert, F James HOWORTH, Wollen Miller, MMN Elizabeth Robinson, born at Georges Row Miller Barn Newchurch
1871
Elizabeth HAWORTH
1871 Census RG10/4135/45/16
Georges Row Miller Bank Newchurch
all born Newchurch
Margaret Dewhurst 64 Head
Elizabeth Howarth 45 Daughter
James Howarth 22 G son
Elizabeth E Hargreaves 23 G daughter
+ Hargreaves family
22/08/1871
James HOWORTH & Elizabeth Robinson
From Marriage Cert, Married at Haslingden Registry Office,
James HOWORTH age 22, Bachelor, Under-carder, living in Newchurch,
F James HOWORTH deceased a Quarryman.
Elizabeth Robinson, age 19 Spinster, Power Loom Operator, living at Old Gate Newchurch,
F Isaiah Robinson deceased Stone Mason
Witnesses: Absolom Omerod & Elizabeth Alice Omerod
1861
Elizabeth HAWORTH
1861 Census RG9/3054/103/9
Miller Barn Newchurch all born Newchurch
Peggy Dewhurst 55 Head
Elizabeth Haworth 35 Daughter
Elizabeth E 14 G Daughter
James 12 G Son
+ Lodger
1851
Elizabeth HAWORTH
1851 Census H0107/2248/114/3
14 Georges Row
John Dewhurst 45 Flag Dresser
Peggy 45
Elizabeth Haworth 25 Lodger
Elizabeth E 4
James 2
13/07/48
James HOWORTH
From Lanc's OPC
Baptisms: 27 Aug 1848 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England
James Haworth - Child of James Haworth & Elizabeth
Born: 13 Jul 1848
Abode: Miller Barn
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: A Harden
Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1848 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [194], Entry 1548
Source: LDS Film 1040341
(it would appear that James's father died before he was born, I have tried to get a BC for james with f James and M Elizabeth, but despite Lanc's Cert Services looking for over a week they couldn't find one, I don't think it was complusery then was it register?)
08/01/1848
James HAWORTH
From Lanc's OPC
Burial: 8 Jan 1848 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England
James Howarth -
Age: 25
Abode: Miller Barn
Buried by: Wm Brewster
Register: Burials 1833 - 1848 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 243, Entry 1944
Source: Film 1040341
(Need to get DC Haslingden Q1 1848 Vol 21/371)
11/05/1846
James HAWORTH & Elizabeth DEWHURST
From Marriage Cert
The Parochial Chapel Newchurch
James HOWARTH full age, Bachelor, Carder, living in Waterfoot.
F James HAWORTH a Butcher (Query on this can't find a James as a butcher in 1841 census see below)
Elizabeth DEWHURST, full age, Weaver, Born Miller Barn.
F John Dewhurst a Stone Mason
Witnesses: Absolom Stott & Samuel HAWORTH(see below)
1841
Elizabeth DEWHURST
1841 Census H0107/0505/1/11
Cowpe Lench Waterfoot
James Dewhurst 35 Stone Mason
Margaret wife 30
Elizabeth daughter 15
1841
James HAWORTH
1841 Census H0107/506/14/8/8
Hollin House Lower Booths
James Haworth 45 Farmer
Mary Haworth 45
Betty Haworth 20
John Haworth 20 Fulling Miller
Daniel Haworth 20 ditto
Mary Haworth 15 Wollen Weaver
James Haworth 15 Carter (I think should be carder)
Jane Ann Haworth 12
Haworth Haworth 4
Edward Haworth 1
Samuel Haworth 15 Wool Sorter
(The MC states that James's father was a butcher, but here he is I think, as a farmer, what makes me think that this is the right family for James is that the witness to his marriage above was Samuel his brother the wool sorter, but I could be completely wrong AGAIN)
If you have reached this far well done and any help is appreciated have I got the correct pedigree ? and further assistance in tracing the Dewhursts and Haworths/Howorths back even further would be just grand.
Thanks
L
This particular line of Haworths/Howorths has long been one of my brick walls and at least a right pain in the **** and got me perplexed when I recieved a marriage cert for James Haworth/Elizabeth Dewhurst see below.
I set my problem out in reverse chronological order i.e. the way I approached it knowing who my grandfather was.
One of the biggest problems is that I'm knee deep in James Haworths/Howorths and Elizabeth's, Haworth/Howorth is a very popular name around the Rossendale area of Lancashire abit akin to Jones in Cardiff !!
I've put in red were I think there is a issue, but I would appreciate any of you having a look and see if I've gone wrong anywhere (that is a- you don't go to sleep, b- slope of for a vast number of drinks or c- decide drinking is much better than reading this drivel ! and pour another.
Many thanks in advance if you can get through it and help with the queries
Date
Who
What
01/07/1897
Harold Foy
From Birth Cert. F, Michael Foy, MMN Mary Elizabeth HOWARTH
born at New Barn Newchurch Lanc's
27/03/1897
Michael Foy & Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH
From Marriage Cert, Married at St Peters Catholic Church Haslingden
Groom Michael Foy age 22 Bachelor, Cotton Throstler, living at 11 Hope St Cloughfold,
F Patrick Foy a Stone Quarrier
Bride, Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH, age 21, spinster, Cotton Throstler, living at New Barn, Newchurch,
F JOHN ? HOWORTH deceased Wollen Miller. (is this a mistranscription or hard of hearing registrar, or have I gone off the correct trail? see Elizabeth's BC below
Witnesses: John R Taylor & Annie N Taylor
1891
Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH
1891 Census: RG12/3348/16/25
14 Miller Bank Lane Newchurch
all HOWORTH's Born Newchurch area except Elizabeth Newton Heath
Elizabeth HOWORTH 35
John 18
Mary Elizabeth 16
Fredrick 13
Eleanor 11
James 10
Arthur 5
Wilfred 2
George Taylor 26 )
Charles Stott ) Boarders
Newton Stott )
1890
James HOWORTH
Died Q1 age 40 Haslingden 8e/93
1881
James HOWORTH
1881 Census RG11/4129/56/28
St Georges Row Newchurch
James HOWORTH 31 B Waterfoot Fulling Miller
Elizabeth 27 B Newton Heath
John D 8
Mary Elizabeth 6
George H 3
Eleanor 1
Margaret DEWHURST 74 Waterfoot Occupier (Head) (This is I believe is James G Mother)
28/11/1874
Mary Elizabeth HOWORTH
From Birth Cert, F James HOWORTH, Wollen Miller, MMN Elizabeth Robinson, born at Georges Row Miller Barn Newchurch
1871
Elizabeth HAWORTH
1871 Census RG10/4135/45/16
Georges Row Miller Bank Newchurch
all born Newchurch
Margaret Dewhurst 64 Head
Elizabeth Howarth 45 Daughter
James Howarth 22 G son
Elizabeth E Hargreaves 23 G daughter
+ Hargreaves family
22/08/1871
James HOWORTH & Elizabeth Robinson
From Marriage Cert, Married at Haslingden Registry Office,
James HOWORTH age 22, Bachelor, Under-carder, living in Newchurch,
F James HOWORTH deceased a Quarryman.
Elizabeth Robinson, age 19 Spinster, Power Loom Operator, living at Old Gate Newchurch,
F Isaiah Robinson deceased Stone Mason
Witnesses: Absolom Omerod & Elizabeth Alice Omerod
1861
Elizabeth HAWORTH
1861 Census RG9/3054/103/9
Miller Barn Newchurch all born Newchurch
Peggy Dewhurst 55 Head
Elizabeth Haworth 35 Daughter
Elizabeth E 14 G Daughter
James 12 G Son
+ Lodger
1851
Elizabeth HAWORTH
1851 Census H0107/2248/114/3
14 Georges Row
John Dewhurst 45 Flag Dresser
Peggy 45
Elizabeth Haworth 25 Lodger
Elizabeth E 4
James 2
13/07/48
James HOWORTH
From Lanc's OPC
Baptisms: 27 Aug 1848 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England
James Haworth - Child of James Haworth & Elizabeth
Born: 13 Jul 1848
Abode: Miller Barn
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: A Harden
Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1848 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [194], Entry 1548
Source: LDS Film 1040341
(it would appear that James's father died before he was born, I have tried to get a BC for james with f James and M Elizabeth, but despite Lanc's Cert Services looking for over a week they couldn't find one, I don't think it was complusery then was it register?)
08/01/1848
James HAWORTH
From Lanc's OPC
Burial: 8 Jan 1848 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England
James Howarth -
Age: 25
Abode: Miller Barn
Buried by: Wm Brewster
Register: Burials 1833 - 1848 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 243, Entry 1944
Source: Film 1040341
(Need to get DC Haslingden Q1 1848 Vol 21/371)
11/05/1846
James HAWORTH & Elizabeth DEWHURST
From Marriage Cert
The Parochial Chapel Newchurch
James HOWARTH full age, Bachelor, Carder, living in Waterfoot.
F James HAWORTH a Butcher (Query on this can't find a James as a butcher in 1841 census see below)
Elizabeth DEWHURST, full age, Weaver, Born Miller Barn.
F John Dewhurst a Stone Mason
Witnesses: Absolom Stott & Samuel HAWORTH(see below)
1841
Elizabeth DEWHURST
1841 Census H0107/0505/1/11
Cowpe Lench Waterfoot
James Dewhurst 35 Stone Mason
Margaret wife 30
Elizabeth daughter 15
1841
James HAWORTH
1841 Census H0107/506/14/8/8
Hollin House Lower Booths
James Haworth 45 Farmer
Mary Haworth 45
Betty Haworth 20
John Haworth 20 Fulling Miller
Daniel Haworth 20 ditto
Mary Haworth 15 Wollen Weaver
James Haworth 15 Carter (I think should be carder)
Jane Ann Haworth 12
Haworth Haworth 4
Edward Haworth 1
Samuel Haworth 15 Wool Sorter
(The MC states that James's father was a butcher, but here he is I think, as a farmer, what makes me think that this is the right family for James is that the witness to his marriage above was Samuel his brother the wool sorter, but I could be completely wrong AGAIN)
If you have reached this far well done and any help is appreciated have I got the correct pedigree ? and further assistance in tracing the Dewhursts and Haworths/Howorths back even further would be just grand.
Thanks
L
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