I guess I need to buy birth cert.....?

[tessie31082]

I am now trying to trace my OH's fathers mothers line but I am having trouble getting a marriage for my OH's grandparents! There are about 6-7 children born in Lewisham with their married name and same MMN starting at around 1912 but I can't see a marriage for Lewisham on earlier records and with maiden name on later records. So I am guessing I will need to get OH's grandmother birth cert to get full names of parents and try that way?
Thanks for your input.
Tessie

[Joan of Archives]

Do you have the grandparents' names so we can look for a marriage for you?

[tessie31082]

John Byrne and MMN Wilkin (no first name) sorry! OH's grandmother was born 1923. With a name like Byrne is it possible I will be looking to Irish records some time in the future?
Thanks

[Joan of Archives]

Right so the earliest birth was 1912 in Lewisham, surname Byrne MMN Wilkin?

With a name like Byrne it does sound like he was Irish, or Irish descent so they could have married in Ireland. I will have a look for you to see if I can see a relevant marriage.

[samesizedfeet]

I think you need to get a birth certificate.

Having the mother's first name would help for doing a search for John Byrne marriage to X in case the surname is mistranscribed or not on FreeBMD yet.

And if she were married before it would give you a previous married name i.e. she may have been born Wilkin but married a Mr Smith before she married John Byrne. In that case the marriage would be in the surname Smith but it would still be Wilkin on the birth registrations

[Joan of Archives]

Could this be their marriage?

John Byrne 1904 Lewisham Dec Q
Margaret Mary Wilkin

[Chrissie Smiff]

What about this one Tessie?

Marriages Dec 1904
Byrne John Lewisham 1d 1800
Wilkin Margaret Mary Lewisham 1d 1800

[Chrissie Smiff]

Snap Joanie :D

[Joan of Archives]

As Zoe says you should really get your OH's grandmother's birth certificate anyway. It should give her mother's full name & maiden surname or any other name she was previously known by. Then you can send for the marriage cert if those two look likely. There was a Margaret Wilkin aged 16 living in Lewisham on the 1901 census.

[Joan of Archives]

Snap Joanie :D

:D:D Smiffy !

[tessie31082]

Thank you! That looks likely, but I will order the cert. to be on the safe side! What a long time before the kids arrived!!
Tessie

[samesizedfeet]

well there's every chance there were more children but as the maiden name isn't added to the index until later they wouldn't show up on a Byrnes/Wilkins search

[Chrissie Smiff]

There aren't any Byrne births in Lewisham on free BMD coming up between 1898 and 1914 .

[tessie31082]

Thank you!