Having trouble tracing info on my great grandaprents

[lorry53]

Can anyone offer me some advice on searching for my great grandparents and their ancestors? All I know at the moment is their names and I'm having no luck tracking them down.

My grandfather was John Henry Evans 6 Feb 1895 - 12 Apr 1967. He was born in Forden, Montgomeryshire. His birth certificate shows that his parents were John Evans and Susan Wood, but that's as far as I can get. The fact that he was called John Evans doesn't help! Any hints or tips would be gratefully received.

[Margaret in Burton]

Do I take it that you haven't found them on the 1901 census?

[Margaret in Burton]

Think I have them in 1901

Do you have access to Ancestry?

RG13; Piece: 5200; Folio: 105; Page: 1

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7815&iid=MGYRG13_5199_5203-0438&fn=Gusse&ln=Evans&st=r&ssrc=&pid=32964842

[lorry53]

Not a trace, unfortunately. I tried my grandfather's name on the 1911 Census site and found a possible entry, but he wasn't living with his parents.

Yes, I have an Ancestry subscription. Off to check your reference!

ETS: Ooh, yes, that's them! It shows my grandfather as Henry, but it's definitely him. Thanks. :D I obviously need to approach my searches from a different angle.

[Margaret in Burton]

Transcription

Pony Llan Cottage, Forden, Montgomeryshire

John Evans age 32 a shepherd on farm born Llanhucham Montgomeryshire
Susan age 28 born Tregynon Montgomeryshire
Nicholas age 8 born Leighton Montgomeryshire
Gusse age 7 born Leighton Montgomeryshire
Henry age 6 born Forden Montgomeryshire
Rose age 5 born Forden Montgomeryshire
Pryce age 1 born Forden Montgomeryshire
Mary Gittins - mother in law age 72 born Llanwnnog Montgomeryshire


John Henry Evans is listed as Henry

[lorry53]

Thank you. A slight typo in the transcription as it's Penyllan Cottage, but that's not a problem. Interesting about the MILs surname, though, as Susan's name was Wood. Could have remarried, I suppose. Thanks again.

[Margaret in Burton]

Wales ancestry is a whole new world to me. All of mine are in England.

Glad you now have more info to help you along the way.

[Margaret in Burton]

Not a trace, unfortunately. I tried my grandfather's name on the 1911 Census site and found a possible entry, but he wasn't living with his parents.

Yes, I have an Ancestry subscription. Off to check your reference!

ETS: Ooh, yes, that's them! It shows my grandfather as Henry, but it's definitely him. Thanks. :D I obviously need to approach my searches from a different angle.

I tried using John as a first name and nothing. So just used the surname and John as father, Susan as mother and Forden in the Keyword.

[Mary from Italy]

Marriages Dec 1891
Davies George Newtown 11b 328
Evans John Edward Newtown 11b 328
Lewis Jane Newtown 11b 328
Woods Susan Newtown 11b 328

[fiona c]

Wonder if Susan went by Gittins as well for a while?

Only this looks like her and Mary in 1891


RG12; Piece: 4593; Folio 148; Page 13


Edit, no it's a mistranscription she is Wood on the image. Teach me to look at the image first.

[Mary from Italy]

I tried my grandfather's name on the 1911 Census site and found a possible entry, but he wasn't living with his parents.

Wales isn't online yet.

[lorry53]

Wonder if Susan went by Gittins as well for a while?

Only this looks like her and Mary in 1891


RG12; Piece: 4593; Folio 148; Page 13

It's possible. How do I find your reference at Ancestry. Sorry, but I've only ever done name searches. :o

[fiona c]

Go to the census you want, in this case the 1891 Wales census. Scroll down on the refine your search and at the bottom is a place to enter the detail. I usually remove all names incase of mistranscriptions.

[lorry53]

Thanks, Fiona.

[Mary from Italy]

Marriages Jun 1876
Gittins David Newtown 11b 319
Godrington Mary Newtown 11b 319
Roycroft Henry Newtown 11b 319
WOODS Mary Newtown 11b 319

[fiona c]

1881. RG11; Piece: 5488; Folio: 86; Page: 11

And it looks like Thomas Woods is really Nicholas Thomas after his father.

1871; RG10; Piece: 5618; Folio: 36; Page: 7

[fiona c]

Marriage Sep 1865
James John Newtown 11b 328
Jones Mary Ann Newtown 11b 328
Wood Nicholas Newtown 11b 328


One female missing

[lorry53]

Goodness, you're good. LOL!

[fiona c]

Mmmmmm could it really be this easy, in 1861 Nicholas is with his family and there just happens to be a Mary Jones working for them of the right age and birth place.


RG9; Piece: 4252; Folio: 86; Page: 10

[lorry53]

Wales isn't online yet.

Yeah, I know, but he moved to Shropshire at some stage, so I searched there.