Hi, can someone please help?

[kris08]

;)

Hi, I'm trying to research my Grandmothers branch of the family tree and have gone back to her Great Grandfather Michael Doyle who was born in about 1822 and her Grandmother Mary Burney who was born in about 1826 in Hobart, Tasmania, Australia.

They had three children Margeret born in 1848

James born in 1849

And Michael born in 1850

I can't find any infomation at all on Michael and Marys parents, can someone please help?

[Kit]

I found this:

BURNEY, MARY
Gender: Female
Birth
Marriage/Relationship: 1848 - HOBART, Tasmania ( DOYLE, MICHAEL )
Death:

FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
97398 DOYLE MARGARETT 1847
97397 DOYLE MICHAEL 1850

Is this the right family?

[Kit]

Can see any births for either of them in Tasmania.

Michael may be a convict but could not swear to it. But this record fits:

Name: Michael Doyle
Vessel: Marion
Convicted Date: 18 Sep 1843
Voyage Date: 22 Nov 1843
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Piece: HO 11/13
Place of Conviction: Central Criminal Court

[Kit]

The convict Michael was pardoned in 1847-48 which would tie in with the marriage but I can't see the image to see if there is a DOB or age.

[Kit]

There is also a Michael Doyle in TAS convicted Hildare, arrived on the Egyptian. But again I can't see the image.

[kris08]

I found this:

BURNEY, MARY
Gender: Female
Birth
Marriage/Relationship: 1848 - HOBART, Tasmania ( DOYLE, MICHAEL )
Death:

FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
97398 DOYLE MARGARETT 1847
97397 DOYLE MICHAEL 1850

Is this the right family?

Hi Kit, yep that's them, I found the information with the other son (James) and his siblings on family search.

[kris08]

Can see any births for either of them in Tasmania.

Michael may be a convict but could swear to it. But this record fits:

Name: Michael Doyle
Vessel: Marion
Convicted Date: 18 Sep 1843
Voyage Date: 22 Nov 1843
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Piece: HO 11/13
Place of Conviction: Central Criminal Court

That's really intresting, according to family legend he came from Ireland but I couldn't find any record of him there and also according to family legand Mary and her children were dark skinned, sadly my Granmother wouldn't talk about her mother because she was ashamed of it. (I don't know how that ties in)

[Kit]

Forget the Egyptian one, he had a family.

The Marion Michael is 36 on the attached link. Just not sure when it was written. (pg 82)

Archives Office of Tasmania – digitised record

There is a heap of things on this Michael at the Archives of Tasmania website:
Archives Search Portal

[Kit]

Sorry I meant I couldnt swear to him 'being a convict above.

I can't find a link between your Michael and the convict Michael. Have you got the marriage cert?

[Harrys mum]

Hi Kris......welcome to FTF.

Have you got Michael's death cert? That SHOULD have how long he'd been in Australia.

With a name like Michael Doyle, I'd say he's Irish, and Mary Burney sounds Irish.

What certs do you have??? Sometimes we get certs, have a read, then put them away, not realising there are family names used or witnesses that can help.

Both Mary and Michael's death certs should have their parents names, but of course that depends on the informant knowing the names.

If you can find a marriage it should also have parents names.

[Kit]

Archives Office of Tasmania – digitised record

This link shows his age at 40, I think. Posted in case he is yours.

[Kit]

This is a link to get the certs if you don't have them. There is no online index though.

Births Deaths and Marriages : Home

[kris08]

Thanks Kit

Hi Harrys Mum, thanks for the welcome, no I haven't got their certificates yet.
I guess it would be a good idea to get a copy of their marraige certificate?

[kris08]

Thanks for the links Kit, I'll have a look now.

[Harrys mum]

Kris....you really can't get anywheer without certs. Even the names and dates you have will need certs to double check unless you knew the people personally.

I remember finding the man I thought was my great grandfather died before his first birthday. Same name, age, place of birth and even parents' names. Wasn't until others researching that family told me he'd died as a baby, I realised. I hadn't bought certs and assumed there would only be the one fellow.

Their mothers did have different maiden names.....

[kris08]

Kris....you really can't get anywheer without certs. Even the names and dates you have will need certs to double check unless you knew the people personally.

I remember finding the man I thought was my great grandfather died before his first birthday. Same name, age, place of birth and even parents' names. Wasn't until others researching that family told me he'd died as a baby, I realised. I hadn't bought certs and assumed there would only be the one fellow.

Their mothers did have different maiden names.....

Great advice thanks libby, I'll send away for it.

Tkanks for all you help Kit and Libby

[Elaine ..Spain]

Name: Michael Doyle
Vessel: Marion
Convicted Date: 18 Sep 1843
Voyage Date: 22 Nov 1843
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Piece: HO 11/13
Place of Conviction: Central Criminal Court

Might be worth saving this link in case you confirm that the above Michael Doyle is the one you are looking for. Trasncript of the case at the Old Bailey.
Central Criminal Court

[kris08]

Oh cool thank you Elaine