another census problem

[fran]

Louisa Slimond was born Liverpool 1873 to John Slimond(abt 1847 Scotland) and Elizabeth(about same age,Wales).
Have tried to find them in 1881,91
Have found a death for a John Slimond in 1889 aged 39 (1850)
Have found a Louisa Slyman 16 (1875)in1891,born Liverpool but an orphan and in Harpurhey Manchester.
No sign of Elizabeth anywhere.
If anyone has time please take a look for me.
Fran

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

In those days Orphan didn't have to mean both parents had died, though it usually meant at least the bread-winner had died.

Could this be her father?

Deaths Jun 1889
Slimond John 39 Liverpool 8b 105

There's a birth of an Elizabeth Ellen in 1875 who could be a sibling of Louisa's (can't see her either in 1881!)

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Doh, you said that already! lol

Have found a death for a John Slimond in 1889 aged 39 (1850)

Her mum may have remarried rather than died.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

??

Marriages Mar 1890
CARTER Frank Liverpool 8b 65
Jones John Liverpool 8b 65
Polding Henry Liverpool 8b 65
Slimond Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 65 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Weston Mary Jane Liverpool 8b 65

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

There's a Frank Carter with wife Elizabeth (38) in 1891 living in Mount Pleasent, Liverpool. She is born in Wrexham. That's in Denbighshire, isn't it??

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Is that them marrying in 1869? I can't see them in 1871 either. :(

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Do you have the marriage cert? I was wondering if Elizabeth Prytheron's father was William, a tailor?

I was looking at these two census records:

1861:

RG9; Piece: 2710; Folio: 12; Page: 22

1851:

HO107; Piece: 2185; Folio: 574; Page: 31

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Here they are in 1871 transcribed as Hemond!

RG10; Piece: 3812; Folio: 9; Page: 12

Both aged 25, he's from Ayrshire Scotland and she's from Wrexham, so looking good for the marriage to the American, Frank Carter in 1890.

That doesn't help 1881 though!! lol

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

And here they are in 1881 transcribed as Steward:

RG10; Piece: 3812; Folio: 9; Page: 12

The two younger children, Elizabeth and Emma are very likely the same children recorded as Carter in 1891. There's a John too in 1891 and I can see a birth reg for him in the name Slimond. So that's just the birth reg for Emma that's missing.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

There's a remote chance Emma began life as Mary Edith! lol (Q4 1880)

[fran]

That is them! Thanks so much.
Fran