Australia help, please. Very little info

[Helen Smith Too]

I've just made contact with a rellie on GR.
She has told me that one of the sisters of my 2xgrGrandfather emigrated to Australia, but she hasn't given me anymore details, so...

I'm looking for info on Alice Lees who married either James Kelsall or James Herbert Smith in J-F-M 1902 in Barrow-in-Furness. She obviously emigrated after this date.
Only other info I have on her is that she was born approx Sept qtr 1875 in Bilston, Staffs, daughter of Noah Lees and Mary Clews.
Her brother, George Lees, and his wife returned from a 6 month visit to her in July 1950, so she was still alive at this point.

Can anyone help?

Thank you for looking

[KiteRunner]

Think we might have to start in England and try to work out who she married. But if it turns out she married James Smith, it could be tricky!

[KiteRunner]

So this is the entry from FreeBMD:
Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
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KELSALL James Barrow F. 8e 1218
Lees Alice Barrow In Furness 8e 1218
Smith James Herbert Barrow F. 8e 1218
Swann Lillie Barrow F. 8e 1218

[Helen Smith Too]

Yes, that the right entry.

I'm descended from Alice's brother, Fred, and my new contact, one of her sisters, Emme.
Until today, I didn't even know anyone had gone to Australia. She's given me married names for several of the other sisters, but not Alice.
She mentioned the visit of brother George, and I've found his return on the incoming passenger lists.
I'll have a look for children post-1912. See if that gives any hint.

Nope!

[Mary from Italy]

This looks like her death registration in NSW:

Registration Number / Last Name / Given Name(s) / Father's Given Name(s) / Mother's Given Name(s) / District

20521/1961 / KELSALL / ALICE / NOAH / MARY / GUNNEDAH

[Mary from Italy]

There are no births registered to James and Alice in NSW, but the online birth index only goes up to 1907.

The following death is registered:

Registration Number / Last Name / Given Name(s) / Father's Given Name(s) / Mother's Given Name(s) / District

33461/1966 / KELSALL / JOSEPH / JAMES / ALICE / GUNNEDAH

[Mary from Italy]

There's a WWI service record online for a Joseph Kelsall born in Lancs c. 1881; his nok is listed as his brother James of Transvaal, South Africa.

There's another one for a James Kelsall born in Lancs c 1895; he lists his nok as his father Thomas.

Collection - National Archives of Australia

Can't see one that looks like Alice's husband or son Joseph.

[Mary from Italy]

This looks like James' death:

Registration Number / Last Name / Given Name(s) / Father's Given Name(s) / Mother's Given Name(s) / District

15621/1956 / KELSALL / JAMES / JAMES / MARY ANN / GUNNEDAH

[Mary from Italy]

Births Sep 1911
KELSALL Joseph D mmn Kelsall Preston 8e 937

Not sure if that can be right.

[Helen Smith Too]

Thanks Mary,

That looks like the right one, as Alice's parents were Noah & Mary.

I've been informed that they appear to have emigrated in 1911 (thanks Elaine).

Thanks again.

[Mary from Italy]

I've found them in the NSW electoral roll:

1930, Gwydir district, Boggabri subddistrict

Alice Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, home duties
James Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, farmer
Harold Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, labourer

Joseph Kelsall, Cox's Creek, Boggabri, labourer
Mona Grace Kelsall, Cox's Creek, Boggabri, home duties

1936, Gwydir district, Boggabri subddistrict

Alice Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, home duties
James Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, farmer
Harold Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, labourer
Eileen Gladys Kelsall, Warrington, Boggabri, home duties

Joseph Kelsall, Cox's Creek, Boggabri, labourer
Mona Grace Kelsall, Cox's Creek, Boggabri, home duties

The electoral roll only shows people aged over 21.

[Mary from Italy]

Marriages:

Registration Number / Groom's Surname / Groom's Given Name(s) / Bride's Last Name
at Time of Marriage / Bride's Given Name(s) / District *

14448/1927 / KELSALL / JOSEPH / VINE / MONA G / GUNNEDAH
20068/1927 / KELSALL / HAROLD / O'BRIEN / EVA M / BOGGABRI
20068/1927 / KELSALL / HAROLD / OBRIEN / EVA M / BOGGABRI
1216/1932 / KELSALL / HAROLD / HANKS / EILEEN G / GUNNEDAH

[Mary from Italy]

Sorry, forgot to give you the NSW BDM index address:

NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages - Historical Index Search

[Helen Smith Too]

A big thank you Mary. I'll have a look at those.