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    Can anyone help me find my Jones family in the 1841 census?

    I've traced them back to 1851 but cant find the before that. I also want to find the name of the father of the children, who seems to be awol in 1851 and after.

    Here's the details

    Caroline Jones (Mother) b. c1807 in Shadwell, Middlesex
    Thomas Griffith Jones b. c1831 in St George, Middlesex
    John Jones b. c1832 in St George, Middlesex
    Robert Jones b c1837 in St George, Middlesex
    Griffith Jones b c1840 in St George, Middlesex
    Plus a couple of others which were born after 1841

    Here's the 1851 reference

    Class: HO107; Piece: 1550; Folio: 221; Page: 33; GSU roll: 174780.

    Cheers
    Hail Spode!

  • #2
    There is a baptism on the IGI for Griffiths Jones born 20 Feb 1838 baptised 26 Sep 1839 St George in the East, Stepney, parents Griffiths Jones and Caroline.

    Can't see any others with the same parents, though...
    KiteRunner

    Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
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    • #3
      And this looks possible for the parents' marriage:
      Thomas Griffiths Jones married Caroline Shore Brown 27 Oct 1827 St Matthew, Bethnal Green, London.

      There is a Robert Alexander Jones baptised 5 Oct 1834 at St George in the East, Stepney, parents Thomas and Caroline, but the age would be a few years out, wouldn't it? I suppose they could have had a Robert who died in infancy and then another Robert?
      KiteRunner

      Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
      (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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      • #4
        Then this death could fit:

        Deaths Jun 1849
        Jones Griffiths Thomas Stepney 2 378

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        • #5
          I'm not having any luck looking for them on the 1841 yet, though.
          KiteRunner

          Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
          (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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          • #6
            Thank you both. You've certainly given me some more info to go on. I'm surprised I've got this far with a name like Jones but fortunately they seem to like odd first names like Thomas Foley Jones and Evans Jones.

            Thanks again
            Hail Spode!

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            • #7
              Keeping Up with the Joneses

              Hi
              I know this family well as I am descended from John Jones. The father is Thomas Griffiths Jones, a mariner. He does not appear on censuses (presumably away at sea) but this information can be found in the parish register entries for the children's baptisms. Unfortunately this means it's not clear where he was born. In 1861 census the family has moved to north London but Caroline is a widow by then. I do have more / fuller information but not to hand, i can dig it out if you wish. I have also been searching for the baptism of Caroline Shore Brown in Shadwell and round about but so far without success.

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              • #8
                sorry meant to add in confirmation that the 1827 marriage of Thomas Griffiths Jones and Caroline Brown is the correct reference for this family

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                • #9
                  Wow, hello new rellie!

                  I've got Catherine on the censuses but I dont have any of the parish register entries. The fact Thomas was a mariner is certainly news to me as they all appear to be stationers!

                  Have you found him on any mariners registers?
                  Hail Spode!

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                  • #10
                    Excused me butting in but i'm curious..

                    Northchurch, if you dont mind me asking,is that the`name of the place you come from?
                    Jess

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                    • #11
                      Hi guybrush. Have not got so far as to search any seaman's records for Thomas, bit beyond my area of expertise, but it's on my "to do" list. I have been searching for a long time for a record of his death but this still eludes me. BTW the link to stationery lasted a long time as my maiden great aunties (John's granddaughters) were also in the trade.
                      would love to know which of Thomas and Caroline's children you descend from

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                      • #12
                        Northchurch & I have been exchanging PM's - looks like we could be related (thru Marriage )
                        Jess

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                        • #13
                          It took me quite a time to find Caroline on the censuses and I still cant find her on the 1841. I haven't yet looked into her hubby at all yet.

                          I'm descended from Thomas Griffith then Thomas Foley. I'll pm you my tree details.

                          Looks like we're all one big happy family
                          Hail Spode!

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                          • #14
                            Baptism


                            5th. October, 1834
                            Robert Alexander Jones
                            Fathers = Thomas
                            Fathers occupation: Mariner
                            Mothers = Caroline
                            Birth date: 01/07/1834
                            Address: Philip Street
                            Stepney
                            St George In The East
                            Church address: Cannon Street Road


                            ==========================



                            Day: 26th. September, 1839
                            Griffiths Jones
                            Father = Griffiths
                            Fathers occupation: Mariner
                            Mother = Caroline
                            Birth date: 20/02/1838
                            Address: Philip Street
                            Stepney,St George In The East
                            Last edited by SuffolkSue; 23-12-08, 17:21.

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                            • #15
                              A possible.


                              3rd. April, 1807
                              Caroline Brown
                              Father = William
                              Fathers occupation: Teacher
                              Mother = Catherine
                              Birth date: 13/02/1807
                              Address: Batty's Gardens, Commercial Road
                              Stepney , St George In The East

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                              • #16
                                Oooh interesting thank you!!

                                Where did that info come from?
                                Hail Spode!

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                                • #17
                                  FMP, where a certiain census is appearing.

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                                  • #18
                                    census????
                                    Hail Spode!

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                                    • #19
                                      Joneses

                                      Hi.
                                      Here's what i can add to the info on the Jones.

                                      Census 1861: Caroline Jones and her younger children Elizabeth and Evans can be found at 21 Lower John Street, Islington. Caroline listed as a widow aged 54 a laundress born Middlesex Shadwell.

                                      With regard to Thomas Griffiths Jones the mariner he is quoted variously on marriage certificates as "Thomas Griffiths" or "Griffiths Thomas". According to his children's marriage certificates he was still alive in Dec 1860 but dead by the time of the 1861 census. Still, i have never found a death certificate.

                                      Children:
                                      Robert Alexander - birth and baptism per SuffolkSue's entry. He married Sarah Elizabeth Eatherton at St Anne Limehouse 19/1/1857

                                      Griffiths - born 20/2/38 per SuffolkSue. Married Lousia Ilett Lethieullier at St Mary Lambeth 9/12/1861.

                                      John - born? Married Alice Elizabeth Moon at St Thomas Stepney 25/12/1860

                                      Elizabeth Ann - born 15/7/44 at 10 Phillips Street Shadwell

                                      Evans Thomas - born 26/12/46 at 9 Upper Cornwell St Shadwell

                                      hope this helps

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by guybrush View Post
                                        census????

                                        The 1911 census.

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