Outgoing passenger lists......increasingly confused

[Margaret in Burton]

A few months ago while Ancestry were having one of their freebies, I found my great uncle and his "wife" and son of the SS Winifredia on 19th Sept 1912 going to New York.

I saved the image and that is correct. George Newey (transcribed as Nervey) wife Sarah and son George.

I found George and son returning later that year without Sarah on the new Ancestry incoming lists.

Now I'm really confused.

I have paid for a months sub on find my past to search for more outgoing lists.
Put in the SS Winifredia for 1912. Get the same date 19th Sept. All I get in Mr, Mrs and Miss M Newey going to Boston not New York and it says they are US citizens.

It's a totally different list but the same ship, same date.

[Elaine ..Spain]

A few months ago while Ancestry were having one of their freebies, I found my great uncle and his "wife" and son of the SS Winifredia on 19th Sept 1912 going to New York.

The entry you found on Ancestry is probably this one:

George Nervey
Arrival Date: 29 Sep 1912
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Winifredian
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts

[Elaine ..Spain]

Comparing the names on both lists it is obviously the same ship. I presume the FMP record is a simple embarkation list (badly recorded!) whereas the Ancestry one is the ship's manifest.

[Margaret in Burton]

Yes Elaine, but it's the 19th Sept 1912 not 29th

Here it is


Just cropped it a bit

[Margaret in Burton]

Well it's well and truly confusing me.

I'm beginning to wonder if I've wasted my money on a month sub to FMP if this is all I'm going to get.

How can a 4 year old boy called George turn into a girl called Miss M Newey? The Ancestry one correctly records them as English, whilst the FMP one says they are American

Oh well, I'll keep looking.

Thanks for your help.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Is one the departure date and the other the arrival date?

[Kit]

If it helps Margaret I have my great grandparents leaving England but they never arrived from India in order to leave.

[Kit]

Margaret it would appear there is a mistranscription and the lists are 2 separate lists although for the same voyage. I wouldn't worry, if this is the worst thing that happened to George he had a good life.

[Oscar]

You're not alone in being confused Margaret!! I'm doing some research for a friend with ancestors from India and have had initials change, but birth dates the same. Also, nationalities change, just to add to the fun.

I can symapthise with you too Kit, as I've had arrivals in the UK or India (via the Cape or Mozambique), but can't find the departures to tie in with them.

Happy days!!

Gwyn

[Margaret in Burton]

Thank you for all of your comments