The Winner of WDWTYA? 23rd October 2008 is......

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

flashieboy!!!!

Well done Ruth (hope I've remembered you name correctly! lol)

[samesizedfeet]

*checks watch*

Did the clocks go back already?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

:( possibly

[Uncle John]

Did you win the pub quiz?

[borobabs]

Congratulations Ruth hope you get some walls down babe

[Northern Light]

Best of luck Ruth, hope you find what your searching for

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Did you win the pub quiz?

No!!!!

[flashieboy]

Thank you.

I am sorry I am late responding...I have a 14 year old who insists on giving my computer viruses....and then I have to wait for the 21 year old son to come and fix it.

Anyway here I am.

What I need help with is.

Thomas Marshall born in 1813 in Hemingby Lincolnchire married Charlotte Greenfield in 1833.....they had three daughters Sarah and Mary in 1833 and Ruth in 1835.

Thomas was sent to Tasmania on the Elphinstone in 1836 and it says he had 2 daughters.

I don't know what happened to Ruth......Charlotte applied to come out to Tasmania in 1840 and she had 7 year old twin girls...no mention of Ruth....but she must have been refused permission to come out to Tasmania.

In the 1841 census Charlotte was still living in MInting Lincolnshire but only had one daughter Mary with her.

I can't find any more information on any them......(not Thomas I know where he was)

Thomas went on to marry Eliza Johnson in Tasmania and have heaps more children which I have the information on.

But Eliza Johnsons parents were named Anne and James Newman....I can find a birth record for Anne and James having a daughter Eliza Newman.

But when I applied for Thomas Marshall and Elizas marriage certificate she was Eliza JOhnson....I have no evidence that she ever married other than to Thomas.

Her convict records say she was single when she was sent to Tasmania in 1843 on the Woodbridge.

Eliza was born in Dublin Ireland in abt1826.

[Elaine ..Spain]

I presume the 1841 census for your Charlotte Marshall with daughter Mary, is the family living in Minting.
HO107; Piece 640; Book: 22; Civil Parish: Minting; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 10 11; Folio: 4; Page: 3; Line: 7;

There is a burial on the NBI (National Burial Index) for Ruth Marshall, date of burial 17 Nov 1835, age one week, St. Andrew, Minting.

[flashieboy]

I would say the burial is my Ruth...thanks.

Yes that is the right Charlotte and Sarah...but Sarah has a twin sister Mary and she isn't on the census for 1841

[Elaine ..Spain]

There is a Sarah Ann Marshall, aged 7, on the 1841 census at Horncastle workhouse (about 7 miles from Minting) - impossible to know if she is connected!

HO107; Piece 637; Book: 13; Civil Parish: Horncastle Allotment; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: Horncastle Union Workhouse; Folio: 45; Page: 2; Line: 7

[flashieboy]

Like you say hard to tell...but I wonder why would one child be there and not the other?

I wonder if Charlotte ever married again.

[Elaine ..Spain]

I am just looking at possible marriages.
Presuming she stayed in the Minting area, then the registration district would be Horncastle.
There are two marriages on free BMD for a Charlotte Marshall
1847 - Charlotte Marshall / Joseph Wright (cannot find these in 1851 at the moment)
1853 - Charlotte Marshall / Joseph Dee - ignore this one - found them in 1861 - Charlotte not right age.

[Elaine ..Spain]

1851 census
HO107; Piece: 2114; Folio: 148; Page: 4;
Mary Marshall born 1834 Minting - occ. servant
living in Caistor
Lydia Wardale age 46
John Wells age 59

[flashieboy]

That would make sense because Thomas received permission to mary Eliza Johnson in July 1846.

Any ideas why Eliza JOhnson went by the name of Johnson when bothe her parents were Newman....The name Newman must have been important to here as her son and Grandson were given it as a middle name.

But all the things I find for here have bothe names but no sign of marriage.....her convict records say her mother was sent to Tasmania they year before her...and possible a sister Mary but I cant read it properly.

Elizas mother (anne) also had 2 sons James11 and Edward 9 when she was sent to Tasmaina.

[Elaine ..Spain]

1861 - possible for Mary
RG9; Piece: 2392; Folio: 58; Page: 9

George Coulson 34
Mary Coulson 27 born 1834 Minting
William Coulson 6 Mo
George Coulson 3
Harriett Fletcher 13

IGI
George Coulson / Mary Ann Marshall
Marriage: 11 MAR 1855 Caistor, Lincoln, England

FreeBMD Mar 1855
George Coulson / Mary Ann Marshall
Caistor volume 7a page 701

[Elaine ..Spain]

1871 census - Mary & George Coulson
RG10; Piece: 3420; Folio: 52; Page: 4

- they have a daughter named Charlotte - maybe named after Mary's mother.

[Elaine ..Spain]

1881 - same family - transcribed as Caulson on Ancestry
RG11; Piece: 3300; Folio: 82; Page: 12

[Elaine ..Spain]

1891 same family
RG12; Piece: 2596; Folio 110; Page 3

and living with them is
Charlotte Wright - born 1813 Muston, Northamptonshire
Joseph Wright - born 1817 Asterby Lincolnshire

- could this be Charlotte Marshall who married Joseph Wright in 1847? (see post #13)

I'll work back on this Charlotte and Joseph to see where they are in 1851-1881

[flashieboy]

I really appreciate this.....I am an amateur still.