Intermittent Browns

[Uncle John]

I've found OH's Brown ancestors popping up here and there but I'd really like to get a more complete picture.

Edward Dobson Brown was born about 1815 in Sunderland. In 1851 he's a butcher aged 36 at 3 Embetton Place Liverpool. In 1871 he's a mariner aged 56 at 3 Queen Street Sunderland. He died in Sunderland q4 1878 10a 345 aged 65.

His wife Margaret Young (surname from daughter's birth certificate) was born about 1823 in Sunderland. She's with Edward in 1851 and 1871 aged 31 and 48 respectively.

I can't find them in 1861 or Margaret after 1871, or a likely marriage.

Children are:
Mary born about 1843 in Sunderland (with parents in 1851 aged 6). I don't have anything reliable after that.

Mary C born about 1848 in Sunderland (with parents in 1851 aged 3 and 1871 aged 23).

OH's ancestor Fanny Sherratt b. 8 Oct 1849 Liverpool (got cert.). No problem with her - found her on all censuses. In 1861 shes a "visitor" aged 12 with an Anderston family in Sunderland. I can't tie them in at all.

Emily born 1850/1 in Liverpool (aged 2 months in 1851)

John E born about 1853 in Liverpool (with parents in Sunderland in 1871, a butcher aged 23, by 1881 he's in Monkwearmouth).

William K born about 1854 in Liverpool. Same censuses as John E.

Annie born about 1856 in Sunderland. With parents in 1871.

My real wish is to find where the people were in 1861 and 1881 (and later).

[JBee]

There's a death of an Emily Brown in Liverpool Sept 1852 8b 153

I've struggled but can't find any children of Edward & Margaret Brown in 1861.

[Durham Lady]

Uncle John, you've probably seen these sites but just in case you haven't they may come in useful.
Suderland Council site is good for marriages as you can see what both surnames are, not good for births and deaths though.

Durham Records are transcribing a lot of Sunderland and Monkwearmouth.

Sunderland City Council

Durham Records Online: Search Census and Church Records

[Uncle John]

Thank you both very much for looking. After I posted, I went through the whole family again and was only able to add in the full addresses for census entries I'd found before.

Edward could have been at sea in 1861 but it's a complete mystery where the others are hiding.

[Orangeblossom]

Possible marriage:

Dec 1844
BROWN Edward
YOUNG Margaret
Tynemouth 25 507

[Orangeblossom]

Found a possible for Margaret in 1861: Class: RG9; Piece: 3780; Folio: 81; Page: 15

She's a servant though

[Orangeblossom]

William died in 1890:
Jun 1890
Brown William Kent 36
Sunderland 10a 351

Birth ref is JFM 1854, Liverpool 8b 192

[Orangeblossom]

Annie married John Mitchell in JAS 1873, Stockton 10a 131

She is a widower in 1881 with:
Rachael Mitchell 9
Jane Mitchell 6
Elizabeth Mitchell 4
Ralph Mitchell 2
Michael Stenshon 36 (Lodger) b.Ireland

Class: RG11; Piece: 5008; Folio: 15; Page: 24


She married Thomas Thompson in OND 1882, Sunderland 10a 879

They are in 1891:
James(Thomas) Thompson 45
Ann Thompson 39
Joseph Thompson 21
Rachel Thompson(Mitchell) 19
Jane Thompson(Mitchell) 17
Elizabeth Thompson(Mitchell) 15
Thomas Thompson 14
Ralph Thompson(Mitchell) 12
Cuthbert Thompson 9
Andrew Thompson 6
George Thompson 4
Ann Thompson 4/12

Class: RG12; Piece: 4149; Folio 32; Page 18

[Uncle John]

Thank you very much for your searching.

Possible marriage:

Dec 1844
BROWN Edward
YOUNG Margaret
Tynemouth 25 507

I found that one. I've put it down as a possible.

Found a possible for Margaret in 1861: Class: RG9; Piece: 3780; Folio: 81; Page: 15

She's a servant though

Hadn't seen that one. I'll stick it in as a query. She is shown as married, which is a plus.

William died in 1890:
Jun 1890
Brown William Kent 36
Sunderland 10a 351

Birth ref is JFM 1854, Liverpool 8b 192

Thank you for that matching pair. The unusual middle name is a help.

Annie married John Mitchell in JAS 1873, Stockton 10a 131

She is a widower in 1881 with:
Rachael Mitchell 9
Jane Mitchell 6
Elizabeth Mitchell 4
Ralph Mitchell 2
Michael Stenshon 36 (Lodger) b.Ireland

Class: RG11; Piece: 5008; Folio: 15; Page: 24


She married Thomas Thompson in OND 1882, Sunderland 10a 879

They are in 1891:
James(Thomas) Thompson 45
Ann Thompson 39
Joseph Thompson 21
Rachel Thompson(Mitchell) 19
Jane Thompson(Mitchell) 17
Elizabeth Thompson(Mitchell) 15
Thomas Thompson 14
Ralph Thompson(Mitchell) 12
Cuthbert Thompson 9
Andrew Thompson 6
George Thompson 4
Ann Thompson 4/12

Class: RG12; Piece: 4149; Folio 32; Page 18

I'll have a look for likely Mitchells already in my tree to marry her off to.

I'd better get my tea before starting on this lot!

[Uncle John]

Obviously the Annie/Mitchell marriage cert. would confirm or disprove a link, but I can't really justify £7 for a side-shoot. He doesn't match any of my other Mitchells.